Posted on 10/19/2021 9:31:09 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
Read through the summaries in both cases. Thanks again for posting.
Recommend other persons read the case summaries (provided at post #34) before posting comments.
These cases were decided on facts specific to the cases: one involvied the fatal shooting of a hammer yielding suspect; the other involved an officer kneeling on the left side of a violent arrestee for eight whole seconds while disarming him.
Was hoping for natural immunity instead of the vax demand.
The opinions in these cases support qualified immunity; however, the notion that there has to be an exact similar fact pattern to overcome qualified immunity is nonsense.
The standard in the past was the cops knew or should have known their actions were in violation of a person’s constitutional rights.
These two cases are much-ado-about-nothing.
It also bodes well for Derek Chauvin’s appeals.
Law and order, Giuliani style, is necessary for any kind of quality of life. Democrat-run cities have become violent hellholes without it.
That is different subject. We've never given Big Pharma that kind of blanket immunity in the past and it was a mistake to grant in regard to Covid vaccines.
# Stop lumping all or most police officers with the worst ones.
No, I don’t think I will.
# Always better to read primary sources when available. This is a general rule for history and other fields as well.
Absolutely. I read through most of them, and the oral arguments when they come up as well. I’ve seen absolute lies about both in the media reporting. The media simply cannot be trusted.
Drs. Christopher Duntsch, Jack Kevorkian.
Yes, the combination of the words “media” and “trustworthiness” has become mostly an oxymoron these days. And they did it all to themselves by selling their souls to activist/viewpoint journalism (aka “woke”).
Watching CSPAN was the great eye opener for me. I would watch an event (usually a speech, interview, conference, etc.) then view a media account of the same event later. It was like there had been two separate events; the one I watched and the one the media reported on. The “spin” was very obvious.
It brings to mind Goebbels and his claim that, if you are going to lie, make it a big lie and his holding that a lie repeated often enough and loudly enough becomes the truth.
Unfortunately, media on the right is just as likely to spin things as on the left. Perhaps it is defensive. But there is no honor in doing it.
During the Vietnam War, there was a self-condemning saying that circulated:
“We had to destroy the village in order to save it.”
Paraphrasing, will it be said:
“We had to destroy honor in order to save it.”
and
“We had to destroy the media in order to save it.”
Beyond not being a “good look,” can a democratic, free society sustain itself when so much purposeful lying and exaggeration is going on? This is the point when dictators and strong men arise.
Go join BLM and the defund the police movement. But, make sure you move to one of the cities that supports that kind of thing.
You got me, no QI for anyone.
I’ll be with you as long as we can include all judges; state, local and federal.
Supreme Court is once again protecting union-backed government thugs - if they grant qualified immunity in a given case because the thuggery wasn’t yet established as a Constitutional violation by a Supreme Court ruling, they should actually rule on the fact pattern to say whether it is a violation or not. Right now, the Supreme Court punts on these facts patterns and the thugs can keep thugging thanks to Supreme Court laziness and indifference.
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