You can say a lot of things, but you can't say the vax isn't experimental.
Because it is. That fact is not in dispute.
Posted on 05/20/2021 10:18:35 AM PDT by Lenora Thompson
1) Yes well I hope Regeneron becomes more mainstreamed.
2) There was a story I skimmed on FR yesterday about vaccinated people including those who had COVID prior — whose blood is no longer considered useful for certain things COVID treatment related (?)
3) I’m not a biologist but have read into so many other research papers re: COVID treatments that are not Ivermectin related...Much of the regimens involve repurposing and combining certain drugs already on the market including over the counter. A lot depends on what phase of the disease a person is in...Pepcid AC in combination with other things as an example....(which was also part of Trump’s treatment.) Yet I feel like the promising results of said research barely get airplay.
4) A doctor I respect very much believes even with vaccination, we are letting go of mask mandates too early. 🤷🏻♀️
5) I’m still weary of recommending vaccines outright to lower risk people especially the younger they are and again: women with concerns about menstrual cycles etc...
Maybe he is pro vaccine because they are basic science and work?
My gosh have some conservatives really descended to level of liberals and just make up kooky stuff to believe ???!!!
I feel like I’m hearing Al Gore make up crap about global warming when I read this stuff.
Same emotional non science based stuff
Of course he is.
He's got Melania for that and she's WAY prettier than you.
Maybe a little, she has professional help.
Besides, mom always liked me best and that goes a long way.
Because anti-vaxxers, including people who call it ‘experimental’ are idiots and Trump isn’t.
You can say a lot of things, but you can't say the vax isn't experimental.
Because it is. That fact is not in dispute.
As much as I love Trump and what he did to turn our country around while in office, I've been around the block enough times to know one man is not capable of fixing everything in the world. That doesn't make me like Trump any less.
The people who are bitchin' about the vaccines are those who want a risk-free world. There is no such thing. The virus is going to stay with us forever. What will change is that we get more use to it or immune to it and learn to live with it.
Trump is not the bad guy here. The virus is.
I bet most people can say that, those are all easy words.
Who's experimenting with it anyway? Looks like it's pretty much in use.
That fact is not in dispute.
And dispoot is directed at the Qtard blogger Looney Lenora:
Operation Warpspeed is one of Trump’s greatest accomplishments, which is why Biden is busy trying to claim credit for it.
“Get a job.”
Judging by often you do this, you are the one who needs something to do, heh.
The better question is why are so many “conservatives” anti-vax when that used to be the domain of the Green Party and radical leftists like RFK Jr?
The better question is why are so many “conservatives” anti-vax when that used to be the domain of the Green Party and radical leftists like RFK Jr?
I don’t know many conservatives who are anti-vax. I know many who are pro-REAL vaccines, though.
But, then....this is not a vaccine.
It’s an experimental, unproven biological agent. Not even fully FDA approved.
So you a pro-All Vaccines? None should be questioned? It’s “liberal” to investigate the safety of injected chemicals? Your faith is astounding, to the suspension of all other faculties!
Btw.....welcome to FR.
I’d step lightly when attempting to slight conservatives, here.
Does anyone ever wonder IF these politicians truly received a vaccine or in some cases, was it faked?
There was some fake news posted claiming that the Red Cross doesn't want blood from vaccinated persons. That's totally false. Additionally, it was claimed that they don't accept convalescent plasma from vaccinated persons. That's currently the case, but only because that's what the FDA had recommended initially. The FDA recently updated their guidance and the Red Cross is working on updating their policies and procedures to match. You can verify this yourself at the Red Cross website. Additionally, you should know that multiple studies have shown that convalescent plasma is ineffective as a COVID-19 treatment.
"A lot depends on what phase of the disease a person is in"
This is very true. For example, Ivermectin gets a lot of discussion here, and it's possible there may be some benefit if it's given very early on in disease progression. But once significant symptoms have appeared, it's clear that Ivermectin is ineffective. Monoclonal antibody therapy can still be effective in the later stages. It too is best given before things get too dire, but they turned President Trump's case around very quickly when he was hospitalized.
"A doctor I respect very much believes even with vaccination, we are letting go of mask mandates too early."
I don't like mask mandates (or really any mandates, right down to seat belts and motorcycle helmets). I think the best guidance remains that if you're inside in a crowded public location, a well fitting high quality mask (e.g. N95, KN95, etc.) will reduce your risk of spreading or becoming infected with COVID-19. If you're vaccinated, that risk is significantly lower already. Each is a tool that can be useful in reducing risk. Nothing eliminates all risk. However, outside no mask is particularly useful because all the data from the past year has shown that outdoor transmission is extremely unlikely.
"I’m still weary of recommending vaccines outright to lower risk people especially the younger they are and again: women with concerns about menstrual cycles etc..."
Understandably so, and I only ever encourage people to do research at reputable places (e.g. not FakeBook or conspiracy blogs) and talk with their doctor so they can make an informed decision. If someone decides they don't want to get vaccinated, that's completely fine. The data shows that the vaccines are safe and effective, but not perfect in every way. People with a history of severe allergic reactions should stay away from Pfizer and Moderna. Anyone who is pro-life should probably not be taking the J&J vaccine because they used fetal stem cells in their research, development, and testing (but not in production because there's nothing for the fetal stem cells to do there).
In the end, it all comes down to risk management. There are things we know you can do to risk contracting the disease in the first place. There are things we know you can do to reduce the risk of basic illness progressing to significantly worse illness. It's up to each person to decide what options work best for them. At the very least, it's always a good idea to eat a healthy diet and get exercise and time outdoors.
...there are plenty here who are ‘anti COVID vaccine’, but are perfectly fine with others (like polio, smallpox, and so forth). There IS a difference.
This! 100%!
Trump is an extreme germaphobe. The stories of his trysts with random women are ridiculous. He washes his hands all day long. He will not touch anything that might contain dirt. On and on. It is extreme. Fauci knew precisely how to get to Trump. This was gamed out in China. THAT is Trump’s achilles heel.
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