Posted on 05/06/2021 11:37:06 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
Oh wait - instruction and licensing is already required for those.
Can you please point out where in the Constitution those rights are explicitly mentioned?
"Correct. It's the 2nd Amendment."
So, by your logic we should just issue all known felons, mentally unstable, and insane individuals guns since the constitution says they have that "right."
You're right. That was easy.
Rush Limbaugh had that same opinion regarding all that "anecdotal evidence" linking smoking and lung cancer.
Another red herring, but I'll address it anyway for my own amusement. A felon is someone who committed a crime and has basically been denied all rights as a result of that crime. However even a felon can petition the court to reinstate his or her rights, even the right to keep and bear arms. I know of one individual personally who did and won. So yes, a known felon can keep and bear arms.
Weird that you use the word "issue" which implies that our rights are granted by the government. This is defective thinking on your part. They are rights, not liberties. They can be taken away however, after a crime is committed and the person found guilty by a trial of their peers.
The mentally ill and the insane. They do indeed have the right to keep and bear arms, unless adjudged to warrant being tossed in an asylum. But again, they are not denied rights prior to going nuts. You can't send people to jail or institutes for "future crimes". And is absolutely possible for perfectly normal people do go nuts from time to time. But even former nuts can get better with proper treatment and petition for a restoration of rights. Conversely people who appeared mentis compos while having taken some tawdry shill's firearms class and passed with flying colors can experience a neurological breakdown. How does one protect themselves against someone who seemed normal for years but suddenly goes postal?
Yes, with our old friend, the 2nd Amendment. Americans are innocent until proven guilty. It's why we don't need permission to exercise our rights.
You're right. That was easy.
Correct. You're welcome. Rights are easy to understand if you're an American.
And, this is where you are making a wrong assumption. If they have been adjudicated as mentally defective, they have no such right. Being "tossed in an asylum" is not a requirement. Did you bother reading question 11(f) on form 4473 you filled out when you last bought a gun from a dealer?
We have laws that keep irresponsible people from hurting others before the fact. You may even argue that they seem to be unconstitutional. The 1st Amendment does not give you free reign to shout "fire" in a crowded theater. I think before this is all over with, the 2nd Amendment won't allow you to carry firearms in public without some sort of prior instruction or certification. As more states open up to constitutional carry, some saneness will finally prevail. I'm just afraid that won't happen until enough people have been injured or killed. You forget the 2nd Amendment was to allow us to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government. It wasn't created as an outlet for testosterone.
You don't need a license or instruction in order to exercise your right to free speech. Can you misuse your rights? Sure. But you don't silence or jail someone ante facto, because they "might" yell "fire".
I think before this is all over with, the 2nd Amendment won't allow you to carry firearms in public without some sort of prior instruction or certification.
Again, the 2nd Amendment doesn't "allow" you anything. You have the Right by virtue of your very existence as a human being. I'm not sure why you fail to grasp this, but that's not my problem.
As more states open up to constitutional carry, some saneness will finally prevail.
Correct. Our birthright to keep and bear arms sans the imprimatur of some dipshit Dem bureaucrat will finally find its full expression.
I'm just afraid that won't happen until enough people have been injured or killed.
People are already injured and killed every day. Mostly with fists, feet and blunt instruments. They'll think twice if their targets are openly packing heat. A piece is a great dissuader.
You forget the 2nd Amendment was to allow us to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government.
Again, the 2nd Amendment doesn't "allow" you anything. You have the Right by virtue of your very existence as a human being. Our right to keep and bear arms is no more limited to use against the government anymore than our right to keep and bear books is limited to anti-government pamphlets. It's really none of your damned business as to why a person chooses to arm themselves and what manner of shooting in which they choose to partake so long as they don't commit any crime. Besides, it is quite ridiculous to think that the same tyrannical government that compels its citizenry to take up arms in self defense would, at the same time, issue licenses.
It wasn't created as an outlet for testosterone.
Fetish so noted. I think we are done here.
You are way more patient than most... Lol! I wonder if you are “allowed” to express yourself here or does the 1st amendment “give” you that “right”? eyeroll...
I'm sure no list exists yet, but I'm also sure you won't be waiting long as we will now have untold numbers of untrained/untested people carrying guns in this state. I find it hard to believe that you think that untrained individuals have no more accidents than those who are trained. Heck, if that's the case, then let's just do away with the hunter safety course and drivers licenses.
By the way, if you were really serious about finding documented gun accidents in Texas committed by untrained/unlicensed people, then just google it. There's plenty to read.
Translation: You don’t have any statistics or facts to back up your assertions. 40% of the States currently have Constitutional Carry but statistically there was no tidal wave of shootings and ADs was there?
But thank heavens we have educated instructors to teach us:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKhOAqhXMhA
No "tidal wave" but there will definitely be an increase. And, you can bet there will be some statistics being kept once they start compiling them. All this will do is give the gun-grabbers something more to use against those of us with common sense. The individual accounts are already in the news on a regular basis. All you have to do is look for them.
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