Posted on 04/02/2021 5:30:04 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
“At this point, the government response is either a clinic on gross incompetence, or was a direct effort to spike the Trump admin’s stellar economy. Frankly, it could have been both.”
And there’s another choice: gross incompetence in the US medical system.
Government influence on the medical community no doubt contributed greatly.
Cracks me up when they say “follow the science” when there is no competent science.
COVID didn’t crush the economy. Government did.
Always been about control
And population reduction
Would you buy a car from someone who says we need less cars and advocates for their destruction, versus buying a car from someone who makes cars for a living?
Would you trust a known liar over others who are not, but are simply saying things you just don’t like hearing?
Would you have as your doctor one who thinks the planet is too full of people, performs abortions and deliveries, and would withhold treatment from you that could help you get better, and pushes things they have a personal financial and political interest in, or would you want a different kind of doctor?
So then turn to vaccines. You want to take a vaccine pushed by a billionaire invested in these meds, who is a population reductionist, a big pro-abort, and a liar?
If the government tried this crap 20 years ago, the American people would have told them to go pound sand.
“COVID didn’t crush the economy. Government did.”
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Yep, the shutdowns were NOT NEEDED and were NOT EFFECTIVE.
IT WAS ALL INTENTIONAL!
“So then turn to vaccines. You want to take a vaccine pushed by a billionaire invested in these meds, who is a population reductionist, a big pro-abort, and a liar?”
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I want a VACCINE WHOSE DEVELOPMENT WAS PUSHED BY TRUMP! And we have such a vaccine.
The countries that didn’t have a ridiculously high excess death rate in 2020 were more aggressive at testing than we were. We should have been testing everybody, it should have been free and easily available and there should have been free antibody testing so we could identify who was immune. that’s where the government effed up. if we’re being honest.
And the tried to cover up the fact that they did. Initially, the CDC plotted out the weekly infection and death rates broken down into age brackets with beautifully executed color coded trend lines. This clearly demonstrated if you were under 55 there was minimal risk and if you were under 45 the risk was virtually nil. if you were under 25 the death rate was almost indistinguishable from the zero axis.
First they buried the graph in some obscure corner of the web site where it took a long time to find, even if you knew where to look.
Then they deleted the professional graphics to one of the most cheesy and unprofessionally laid out charts I have ever seen and modified the chart to only show one age group trend line at a time. The resulting plot was disingenuously set to auto scale if you plotted the weekly death rate over time for people over 75, you got a chart that showed the max Y scale set to the max weekly death rate for that age group over the last 6 months which was around 4000.
If you looked at the weekly death rate for children under 15 years old for the time it would scale to a y axis with max weekly death scaled to around 25 so the scaled death rate curve for children under 10 would look essentially the same as the death rate curve for people over 75 if you did not look closely at the actual numbers on the y axis, which were hard to read
Really misleading data presentation and intentionally so
Don’t blame us because “the government” didn’t see fir to provide free and easily accessible PCR tests and antibody tests. Your government dropped that ball, not us.
I was in college during the Hong Kong flu which was in 67 to 70. Frankly I was unaware that there was a big flu. No students or teachers got it. My mother taught in a middle school and never heard of anyone getting it.
There was no shutdown, although it would appear that in the US the number of people who died then was about three times the number in the US from this latest China flu.
This was about 50 years ago so that would have been a larger percentage of the population, but never a hint of shutting down. But then LBJ was busy waging war and working on destroying families.
I don’t buy it: though the failure of the early CDC test kits was a huge disaster.
Doctors and hospitals just sent patients home and told them to come back if it got worse.
Those patients were a pool of available test subjects for testing of ... any and all treatments imaginable!
This was pushed by Fauci and Gates.
I was in high school during the Hong Kong flu. I remember hearing about it but life continued on. I also remember the Bird Flu, the Swine Flu and other diseases that came and went. Life in the United States continued on.
We also drank water from garden hoses, rode our bikes without helmets and walked to school. Somehow, we survived without the Nanny State watching over us.
Hospitals can’t just admit people who aren’t qualified to be admitted so we told them to come back if their symptoms worsened. That’s how disease works. you either beat it or it beats you. If it’s looking like it’s winning, come on back to the ER and we’ll work you up again and admit you if it’s warranted. We were full of covid patients and had extremely sick patients bedded in the ER for over 24 hours while we waited for a bed to become available. Some of the ICU patients were on a ventilator for weeks if not months. it was a battlefield triage kind of situation. And doctors are really supposed to follow best evidence, not run experiment with people’s family members. They followed the best evidence that was available at the time.
“doctors are really supposed to follow best evidence, not run experiment.”
Even during a novel plague? A plague killing hundreds of thousands with no treatment?
Experiments are better than nothing. And the docs knew the patients (or at least their history) so weren’t risking anything. They could try *anything* safe for the patient.
I suspect insurance payment problems were involved- beside gov bureaucracy.
But what you said encapsulates the core problem: The doctors needed to develop evidence but didn’t consider that their job.
For a lot of reasons, mainly the attitude you so well represented, they failed.
I believe “proning” of vent patients was a proof of what I’m saying. It’s benefit was found by experimentation.
Not meaning to be mean, I know what it’s like to have routine in one’s professional life.
Will be seeing my GP next week and, since I’m pretty healthy, will likely explore this subject with him. It’s VA so insurance won’t be a factor.
Specifically I’ll inquire about authorization and support for “experimentation”.
I had the Hong Kong flu and it was bad.
My dad was very sick from it and I know my mom was worried. It’s too late now to find out how sick he was but if my mom was worried, he was very sick. I know he was down for the count for about two weeks and my mom insisted on us being very quiet.
Yeah, it was bad.
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