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Biden Climate Executive Order: Government Vehicles to be Electric
wuwt ^ | Jan. 27, 2021 | Eric Worrall

Posted on 01/28/2021 4:19:38 PM PST by PROCON

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To: PROCON

This Libertarian does not rejoice. It’s not the most cost-effective or reliable option.


61 posted on 01/28/2021 7:52:34 PM PST by Tacrolimus1mg (Do no harm, but take no sh!t.)
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To: PROCON

Another subsidy for the unprofitable electric car makers.


62 posted on 01/28/2021 7:55:51 PM PST by oldbill
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To: beethovenfan; All
Of course they are morons. They're democRATS.

They better start cranking up the fossil fuel coal fired generating plants to provide enough electricity to run this new fleet.

Because in reality, electric cars are coal powered cars.

Watch this short 5 minute video clip from Pragar University about how electric cars are really worse for the environment versus gas fueled ones.

Are Electric Cars Really Green? NO!

63 posted on 01/28/2021 9:37:06 PM PST by HotHunt
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Nevada has massive lithium reserves in the basin and range province. California too on the shared border with Nevada. The EPA has made it so uneconomic that no one would solution mine here. South America has huge lithium reserves in Bolivia as well. I’m a geologist some of my field work has been near tonapah in graduate school.


64 posted on 01/28/2021 10:55:07 PM PST by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: The Great RJ

That’s because chevys are rubbish. Tesla battery packs are liquid cooled just like an ICE vehicle. During discharge LI ion cells release heat as part of the chemical reactions. Being liquid cooled just like the heater on a gas car when cold the Tstat stays closed and traps the heat inside the insulated battery case until they need cooling then the fans and pumps come on. Tesla packs will run just fine in -25 they have tested them down to the 30s while plugged in charging at home or in a parking garage the charge process also heats them and the climate control system keeps them in their temperature window regardless of ambient temps. The Chevy is just poorly designed.

I look at it this way I pay 3 cents per kwh for power with a model 3 that gets 4 miles to the kWh thats .75 cents per mile in “fuel” costs. My current.S60 gets 30mpg on the highway worse in the city and drink 93 RON which.last.tank.was $2.18 gal so 7.6 cents per mile or ten times more. At my power costs the model 3 is giving me the equivalent gasoline cost of 21 CENTS per gallon. My next vehicle will be a Tesla I drive 36,000 miles a year. Tesla has a 8 year unlimited mileage warranty for their packs I have never owned a vehicle longer than 5 years so I’m good. The model 3 also cost brand new less than I already paid for my S60 Volvo with nearly identical payload and passenger capacity. It’s a no brainer less upfront capital and ten times less fuel cost plus no oil changes, no spark plugs, no timing belts and EV regen brake hardly using mechanical brakes so you pads last hundreds of thousands of miles. The irony is I’m a petroleum geologist by trade and put all those miles to and from Midland Houston and Louisiana for drilling work.


65 posted on 01/28/2021 11:08:51 PM PST by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: PROCON

I guess they are really beefing up the otherwise fragile East Coast electric grid.


66 posted on 01/29/2021 4:41:10 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: butlerweave
They make up these EOs without even thinking about it ,LOL

Lunch Bucket Joe certainly doesn't think about it. He has no idea what he's signing.


67 posted on 01/29/2021 4:44:43 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Republicans are the court jesters in the kingdom of liberalism)
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To: RinaseaofDs

Does that include tanks and personnel carriers? How about line ships.


USAF fighter and transport planes will be big users too. Where are they building all the new nuclear power plants for the electricity they will need to go 200 miles?

Since there will be no permitted demand for fossil fuels, all the other products will be far more expensive and in short supply including natural gas. Gas turbines use fossil fuels and like diesel are, of course, not permitted. Those boats will have to convert to electricity else remain tied up until they are scrapped. Or sold to the Chinese ...


68 posted on 01/29/2021 4:49:30 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Gen.Blather

Out here in the GenPub we were told the Crusader was cancelled because it weighed too much ...


69 posted on 01/29/2021 4:52:29 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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“Out here in the GenPub we were told the Crusader was cancelled because it weighed too much ...”

EVERYTHING was wrong with the Crusader. It was so big and heavy there was practically no way to get it to the battlefield. The concept came from the Cold War when it would be rolled out of its bunker and the Soviet front line would get to it. It couldn’t cross most bridges and it would have destroyed most roads. It couldn’t cross any ground that was not hard packed. I want to say it was Rumsfeld who said, “Look, if we can’t get the hardware and the support to the battlefield on a plane, forget it. We can’t use it.”

The Abrams tanks were delivered on two transport ships to Saudi Arabia for the Gulf War. That could not happen if the foe we fight has any submarines or if they have the intelligence apparatus and the ability to lay mines. (Iran.) Now, realize that many ships would have a difficult time delivering the Crusader.

The manufacturer and their cohort of paid accolades kept this dog duty alive and funded for a long time, regardless of the fact that even on paper it was useless. Then, as part of the package to keep it going the promise was made in Congress that if they continued funding they would make it green by going battery/electric. Now, I realize these Congress Critters were getting paid for their vote and they don’t give a wit about the suitability of a weapon on the battlefield, but even they must have realized they were being lied to.

Having said that, the gun, the autoloader and the software was truly amazing. It could drop three rounds on target simultaneously. (Fire one high, one medium and one low all arriving in succession on a target no bigger than an 55 gallon drum.)

But by that time there were laser guided bombs, drones and even lighter artillery shells that were guided. The Crusader had been overcome by later, cheaper, better technologies. Yet, it was kept alive because, “Nothing is closer to immortality than a government project.” (Reagan.)


70 posted on 01/29/2021 5:13:21 AM PST by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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