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Should Trump create The Patriot Party or reform the GOP?
The Conservative Brief ^ | 1/20/21 | Martin Walsh

Posted on 01/21/2021 9:20:20 AM PST by NewRightNetwork

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To: NewRightNetwork

The money flow and leadership must be dismantled. Otherwise the GOP remains an Elephant. The only way to dismantle is with a new party! Do you think any of the Senators will vote against Dominion Or Smartmatic Voting machines that got them elected?


41 posted on 01/21/2021 9:35:55 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Shamrock-DW

Sometimes you can’t remodel or repair, it costs more than it it worth. With the GOP the foundation is cracked and decaying, it’s infested with termites, the basement leaks, the roof leaks, it needs rewired and re-plumbed and there is mold growing on everything. It’s time to bulldoze it to the ground and start over.


42 posted on 01/21/2021 9:36:21 AM PST by sarge83
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To: sarge83

You kick people out in the primaries, you mean to tell me that if all Trump voters vote for a MAGA candidate in the Primary, that it won’t transform the party? What are they going to do, deny them the nomination?


43 posted on 01/21/2021 9:36:29 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: NewRightNetwork

Patriot Party = new Tea Party! Create Patriot Party (PP), exercise clout using PP to remove RINOs, affect voting, etc.


44 posted on 01/21/2021 9:36:47 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: NewRightNetwork
Reform the GOP. I know! But, this is the way to go about this... Learn our lesson from the US Communists and Libertarians. As documented the US Communist tried to create their own party and many other things. They realized many things that lead them to put on their suit and tie and hijack the democrat party. This is the only way. Very important and we have the numbers, We need to control the RNC.

1)We need to get the RNC Chair first and foremost! You can get this in elections or win the convention with a non Establishment candidate. The Uni Party / GOP Establishment wants nothing else than to win conventions for the sole purpose of picking the RNC chair. Their you control the top! You can put non Establishment people in all the positions. You can have money go to the non Establishment candidates. You own the party!

2) This is where I know things personally about the GOP Establishment in Georgia that really started to take form the months after Newt dropped out in 2012: Local!!! For instance the Ga GOP Establishment since Newt tried to dominate everything from Young Replubicans of Atlanta to Georgia College Republicans. They would have GOP Establishment people visit college Republicans and participate and join membership in Young Republican meeting (age 18-40) and apply what I call "Political Facism". You would not be elected a AYR officer. You were not going to be given job opportunities for campaigns. You were the outside child to bully if you were not part of the new GA good ole boys club that I feel started in 2012 after the Newt drop out and Romney election... Listen, you have to be active locally its no joke. I feel this whole thing influenced Kemp. The whole Establishment feeling eventually instilled in the young campaign worker in georgia, I think it influenced Kemp.
45 posted on 01/21/2021 9:37:13 AM PST by Democrats hate too much
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To: NewRightNetwork

reform: primary the rinos.


46 posted on 01/21/2021 9:37:23 AM PST by correctthought (Joe Biden, the *president)
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To: Nathan _in_Arkansas

Good luck with that! I have been trying for YEARS to get people to look at the Primary Races as the most important contest that there is to no avail. In the last TWO Primaries where we had a chance to throw Cornyn out of the Senate, people who can’t stand the guy didn’t bother to vote. Now, because of Quislings like him, the Commies are in control. And guess what? Voting has been deemed to be as meaningless as the status of United States Citizen and the Constitution are.

Nice work, people.


47 posted on 01/21/2021 9:38:10 AM PST by Howie66 (I Weep For Our Republic )
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To: NewRightNetwork

Absolutely.

Look at the GOPe.

The most successful President in recent history - doing all the things they CLAIM they support and with a few outstanding exceptions, they not only failed to DEFEND him, they joined the enemy in attacking him. And they are still doing so.
They are puppets of the media and globalist corporations and they have a lock on the GOP


48 posted on 01/21/2021 9:39:31 AM PST by ZULU (Impeach John Roberts for corruption. SOROS IS "SPARTACUS" BOOKER'S LANISTA.)
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To: sarge83

If you have your way, democrats will forever remain in the majority and probably reach 60+ in the Senate.

I’m a pragmatic man who grew out of impulsive responses years ago. I was a firebrand in my youth and thought the way you do. There is nothing wrong with your fervent passion.

But, sometimes, one must look at things how they are and not how we wished them to be.

The fact is, if conservative votes are split between two different parties, we will lose every race.


49 posted on 01/21/2021 9:41:42 AM PST by Nathan _in_Arkansas (Shut the deuce up!!! I'll do the fighting!!!)
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To: Jamestown1630

Won’t matter if elections are/stay rigged


50 posted on 01/21/2021 9:41:54 AM PST by Jimmy The Snake (He )
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To: NewRightNetwork

“ On December 17, 2020, Gallup polling found that 31% of Americans identified as Democrats, 25% identified as Republican, and 41% as Independent.”

We need a bigger tent that represents working class people, believe me the globalists laugh all the way to the bank when major parties squabble over low polling policy positions.

We don’t need to split the 25% Republicans, we need to dump the Uniparty candidates and go after a sizable chunk of the Independents and also some of the more conservative registered Dem voters.


51 posted on 01/21/2021 9:42:31 AM PST by BlackAdderess (IMO Congress is a symptom whereas K Street is the problem)
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To: NewRightNetwork
Dies anyone here with any common sense think that the elites will let go of their power?

Start a third party and use it to gain control over local government and state legislatures first, then go after the federal.

52 posted on 01/21/2021 9:42:47 AM PST by crz
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To: richardtavor

Personally I prefer the “Drain the Swamp” party. The mere presence of this party on a ballot would inspire countless votes.


53 posted on 01/21/2021 9:42:53 AM PST by cockroach_magoo
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To: dfwgator

I don’t separate the organization of the party from the people. While the media will try to smear and frame any new (right of center) party as “racist, sexist, homophobes” I think the GOP brand already has that and is also tainted as the “rich mans party”.

If you want a true patriot party, one which can span income levels yet embrace traditional families and values, then you have something. If patriots can see that American’s are put first they’ll join. So many are sick and tired of the elite putting others first.

The hard part is the media/academia - professors, TV, FB, Twitter, Google, etc. - they’ll all jump in lock-step to mold peoples’ opinion of anything they don’t like.

...not sure it is possible to succeed.


54 posted on 01/21/2021 9:43:00 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: NewRightNetwork

Too time-consuming to start another party? I’ve been hearing for 40 years about how conservatives need to take over the Republican Party. You seem to make some progress once in a while, then the establishment gets back on top and you’re right back where you started. That’s MY definition of time-consuming. I’m done being duped by these shitbirds...forever.

By the way, the GOP was founded as a “third party” in 1854. Six years later its nominee sat in the White House and controlled the government. Then it wasn’t a “third party” any more, because the one it replaced (the Whigs) had deservedly ceased to exist.


55 posted on 01/21/2021 9:43:13 AM PST by Iowa Slim
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To: NewRightNetwork

THE DECAYED FACE OF THE GOPe

https://www.wnd.com/2021/01/mcconnell-chao-bad-pelosi-feinstein/


56 posted on 01/21/2021 9:43:49 AM PST by ZULU (Impeach John Roberts for corruption. SOROS IS "SPARTACUS" BOOKER'S LANISTA.)
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To: dfwgator

To think the republican establishment will allow you to primary them, when your stated objective is to get rid of them, is folly. We just had a party steal the main election, and we seem to think in republican primaries there are no shenanigans going on? It is far easier to cheat a primary, which I believe has been happening for quite some time.

Oh and Bernie is on line 8....he would like to have a word about primaries, once he is done signing paperwork for his latest mansion haha.


57 posted on 01/21/2021 9:44:11 AM PST by walkingdead (We are sacrificing American youth's future on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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To: fuzzylogic

Fine, I would be all in favor of taking over the GOP, then voting to change the name.


58 posted on 01/21/2021 9:44:19 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Howie66

We must keep working at primaries to ensure establishment politicians are defeated.

I believe we must form our message and deliver. Perhaps we have failed to do so and the voters aren’t solely to blame?


59 posted on 01/21/2021 9:44:34 AM PST by Nathan _in_Arkansas (Shut the deuce up!!! I'll do the fighting!!!)
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To: NewRightNetwork; All
The constitutionally undefined political parties aside, one of the very few powers that the states have expressly constitutionally given the feds to dictate domestic policy is to run the US Mail Service, most federal domestic policy now based on stolen state powers.

So the key question is, how many political parties does it take to run the mail service?

I say none, no political parties needed.

Next, if you’ve just gotta have a political party, lets define the dead Republican party as the ordinary patriot voters who are members of the party, not the corrupt, Constitution-ignoring politicians running that party.

That being said, if Trump establishes a so-called patriot party, I’m certainly ready for a change, at least symbolically, and will be among the first to sign up. The patriot party will still be us deplorable, Trump-supporting patriots, but under a different name.

Patriots ultimately need to amend the Constitution to prohibit political parties, at least for the constitutionally limited power federal government.

60 posted on 01/21/2021 9:44:48 AM PST by Amendment10
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