Posted on 11/29/2020 12:49:48 PM PST by White Lives Matter
Thank you.
I pray Sidney Powell brings in the Server evidence to nuke these corrupt skunks.
hmmm... i rent car from Zak’s auto rental. i run over Jane’s favorite doll, raggedy randy, with the car.
Jane can properly sue... either me?, or Zak?, or both Zak and me? for the loss of raggedy randy...
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or, sues Zak, but tells me not to bring Zak’s rental car to the car wash, to preserve evidence impacting raggedy randy on the bumper.
If Jane sues only Zak, you are not bound by any court order she gets. If Jane wants the court to order you to do something, she has to sue you.
aha, so maybe lin could have benefitted from suing all the county election chiefs. there are no john does in the original complaint i take it and perhaps it is too late to add...
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Not an apt analogy.
The injured parties are the People of Georgia and the People of the United States, injured by Fraud.
The evidence of the injury must be preserved. The evidence is carried by equipment OWNED by the State of GA. The State of GA is liable for the criminal evidence. The proper course of action is for GA to dispatch security personnel to take the machines and preserve the evidence.
The Judge is obviously pulling the FL 11 Circuit case out of nonsense and attaching it to a reversal of his order.
Someone, probably a Clinton goon, found an 11th Circuit case dealing with County Officials and their formatting of ballots and leaned on the Judge in this case. The Judge could have simply responded “take it up on appeal”. But the Judge did something outrageous very similar to what Judge Sullivan of the DC Courts did to Gen Flynn.
What we are witnessing, what many of us have known for a long time, is the corruption of the judiciary. President Trump has reformed the appellate courts over the last four years and was just getting started on reforming the district courts but there is still a lot of corruption at that level.
The following may not make me any friends, but, having practiced law for 42 years, I have to say this:
President Trump's legal team has done him no favors in the post-election litigation. Giuliani ran into trouble in Pennsylvania for suing the wrong counties (and for other stupid mistakes, like dropping his main claim, trying to add it back in after it was too late, and then appealing the wrong part of the judge's order). Powell seems to be making the same dumb mistakes.
Election law is hyper-technical and operates on very short deadlines; an election challenge is no place for a non-expert. Trump was predicting fraud even before election day; his legal advisors should have had a team of crack election lawyers lined up in every swing state ready to go on November 4.
> “but you cannot sue a State in federal court (it has sovereign immunity under the 11th Amendment).”
Obvious, you are not a lawyer. You have the right to enjoy seeing your posts appear on FR threads,.
You're right, I'm not. I retired last month, after 42 years practicing law.
“..the Governor should have done this immediately at the first sign of impropriety - weeks ago...”
LOL...the guv was in on it. Dominion payoffs and China thru the mask money kickbacks....he and the SOS are both dirty as a pigs rolling in a mud hole.
Means nothing.
Some of the dumbest people I have ever met are lawyers and each of them think they are superior to non-lawyers until their arrogance is shocked when they are handed their ass in a sling. The smart lawyers distance themselves from the dumb ones and the dumb ones will find venues to stroke their egos with the plebes, venues like FR.
I participate with groups of non-lawyers that have had lawyers disbarred and judges removed. Three judges in the last few years and more to come.
The judiciary is generally corrupt, Your false bravado of 42 years in that arena is not a badge of honor, unless you’ve done something to cure it which I suspect you did not. You were likely along for the ride.
There is no need to sue the State in this case so your argument is misplaced and irrelevant. Ownership goes to the People of the State of Georgia of which Lin Wood has standing and ownership of evidence goes to both the People of Georgia and the People of the United States.
There are three components of ownership 1) HARDWARE 2) SOFTWARE 3) DATA. Lin Wood asked for preservation of evidence in DATA which can only be done by impounding HARDWARE. The State owns the hardware but licenses the SOFTWARE which is owned ostensibly by Lin Wood calling out Eaton Corp. The SOFTWARE was instrumental in forming the DATA and is an accessory to the crime, ergo Raffensperger’s ties to Eaton make him an accessory.
For the Judge and for officials to play hide and seek games with evidence owned by the People in a cyber clandestine overthrow of an election is Treason. The Young 11 Circuit case is irrelevant to preserving evidence of criminal fraud; apples and oranges. You say apples and oranges are the same because both are fruit. Lin Wood is saying they are different. He’s right.
Lin Wood sued the perpetrators of the fraud and had the court enjoin them in their official capacities to preserve evidence which is DATA. The County Officials have no ownership of the DATA. It was proper to sue Kemp. Raffensperger, et al who are in the chain of custody of the DATA. The Young 11th Ckt case is a dodge.
These corrupt courts think they can pull a fast one over the People because they haven’t in general been held accountable for a long, long time. That era of judicial brinkmanship is coming to an end.
Enjoy your normalcy ignorance while you can.
The fact those “Republican” election officials didn’t freely make the machines available for inpection is suspicious enough.
Combine that with the claim in one of Sidney Powell’s lawsuits that these machines don’t even maintain an audit log of their transactions makes it pretty certain anyone using them has something to hide,
NO - actually, according to witnesses who saw within hours of the judge’s order plugging in memory cards to “update the software” of the machines that are now all stored at the same center of counting controversy...
They are state owned machines. Here is the contract between dominion and the sos:
http://gaverifiedvoting.org/pdf/20190729-GA-Dominion-Contract.pdf
They are also violating this:
@llinwood
On November 24, a litigation hold notice was served on Fulton County which demanded that all evidence related to voting machines be preserved. Scrubbing the machines or tampering with them in any manner should NOT be occurring.
Link to spoliation letter: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4s5xog7oillqiww/Spoliation%20Letter%20-%20Fulton%20County%2011-24-2020.pdf?dl=0
I figured it was bogus early-on, but I did use the thread to bash "Dirty Brian" Kemp...
True, and apart from whatever forensic evidence they expect to find, wiping these machines is a crime in and of itself.
Election counting machines must preserve an audit trail to prove the validity of the ballots counted - the very act of destroying the audit trail may invalidate ballots.
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