Posted on 11/02/2020 9:54:51 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Bacterial Pneumonia Caused Most Deaths in 1918 Influenza Pandemic Tuesday, August 19, 2008
Shall we duel with banjos next time instead of links?
So I should have never quoted Fauxi.:)
However after reading (quickly) several of the studies re masks working and not working with viruses, we may never have a definitive answer to this question.
This was an interesting one. I could relate to it. I was in our Navy’s boot camp in Great lakes in the winter of 1961. There was a meningitis case/breakout in the barracks below mine. The care, followup then and later after boot, was incredible. Of course the Navy had control of us unlike patients today.
Fortunately most of us didn’t get the meninitis.
Thanks for your comments.
“Epidemiological and Statistical Data, US Navy, 1918,” Reprinted from the Annual Report of the Surgeon General, US Navy, (Washington, DC: Government Printing Office, 1919) 434.
Although the Surgeon General of the US Navy acknowledged that wearing masks by hospital staff was good practice, “the morbidity rate, nevertheless, was very high among those attending the sick,” and may only have prevented infection from a direct, close hit from a cough or sneeze of a patient.
The protocols followed in the contagious annex of the US Naval Hospital in Annapolis, MD, were sufficient to prevent cross-contamination of “cerebro-spinal fever” (aka meningitis), diphtheria, measles, mumps, scarlet fever, and German measles.
Not so with influenza. In fact, the infection rate of staff was as high in the high-protocol wards as in the improvised hospitals. In one improvised hospital at the Navy Training Station in Great Lakes, IL., the infection rate was higher among those corpsmen and volunteers, who wore masks than those who did not!
Yep, no direct mention of masks, but how did that bacteria get to the lungs?
I pray for Donald Trump’s continued health.
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Fauci said we need to lockdown again and stay home because winter is here and the virus will spread because the cold weather will make people stay home.
The way it usually gets into lungs when masks aren’t worn.
Good idea, but give him a fair chance at living by allowing him to self-declare himself a bird, a vulture.
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Trump supporters in Florida chanted: "FIRE FAUCI!"
The President responds, "Don't tell anybody...but let me wait until a little bit after the election. I appreciate the advice."
It's the only way to be sure.
Thanks!
Aegrescit medendo - Hepwww.hepmag.com › cure-is-worse-than-the-illness-itself!
Apr 23, 2020 — It’s an old phrase coined by the philosopher Virgil, as the Latin would imply. Essentially it means the disease worsens with treatment, or the cure-is-worse-than-the-illness-itself!
Thanks to: infool7
Try this!
Bacterial Pneumonia Caused Most Deaths in 1918 Influenza Pandemic Tuesday, August 19, 2008
The majority of deaths during the influenza pandemic of 1918-1919 were not caused by the influenza virus acting alone, report researchers from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health. Instead, most victims succumbed to bacterial pneumonia following influenza virus infection. The pneumonia was caused when bacteria that normally inhabit the nose and throat invaded the lungs along a pathway created when the virus destroyed the cells that line the bronchial tubes and lungs.
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The work presents complementary lines of evidence from the fields of pathology and history of medicine to support this conclusion. “The weight of evidence we examined from both historical and modern analyses of the 1918 influenza pandemic favors a scenario in which viral damage followed by bacterial pneumonia led to the vast majority of deaths,” says co-author NIAID Director Anthony S. Fauci, M.D. “In essence, the virus landed the first blow while bacteria delivered the knockout punch.”
The raw link just to be sure:
Thanks to philman_36 for these links.
Bacterial Pneumonia Caused Most Deaths in 1918 Influenza Pandemic Tuesday, August 19, 2008
The majority of deaths during the influenza pandemic of 1918-1919 were not caused by the influenza virus acting alone, report researchers from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health. Instead, most victims succumbed to bacterial pneumonia following influenza virus infection. The pneumonia was caused when bacteria that normally inhabit the nose and throat invaded the lungs along a pathway created when the virus destroyed the cells that line the bronchial tubes and lungs.
Snip...
The work presents complementary lines of evidence from the fields of pathology and history of medicine to support this conclusion. “The weight of evidence we examined from both historical and modern analyses of the 1918 influenza pandemic favors a scenario in which viral damage followed by bacterial pneumonia led to the vast majority of deaths,” says co-author NIAID Director Anthony S. Fauci, M.D. “In essence, the virus landed the first blow while bacteria delivered the knockout punch.”
The raw link just to be sure:
Thanks to philman_36 for these links.
Bacterial Pneumonia Caused Most Deaths in 1918 Influenza Pandemic Tuesday, August 19, 2008
The majority of deaths during the influenza pandemic of 1918-1919 were not caused by the influenza virus acting alone, report researchers from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health. Instead, most victims succumbed to bacterial pneumonia following influenza virus infection. The pneumonia was caused when bacteria that normally inhabit the nose and throat invaded the lungs along a pathway created when the virus destroyed the cells that line the bronchial tubes and lungs.
Snip...
The work presents complementary lines of evidence from the fields of pathology and history of medicine to support this conclusion. “The weight of evidence we examined from both historical and modern analyses of the 1918 influenza pandemic favors a scenario in which viral damage followed by bacterial pneumonia led to the vast majority of deaths,” says co-author NIAID Director Anthony S. Fauci, M.D. “In essence, the virus landed the first blow while bacteria delivered the knockout punch.”
The raw link just to be sure:
Thanks to philman_36 for these links.
As the human race we’ve been at this for quite a while but
apparently not much has changed know-it-all’s
still keep screwing things up for the rest of us.
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I’ve been saying for months here Fauci needs to be thrown off a bridge. I’m not kidding.
Faucie has never been anything different than what he is now. He is a scoundrel pandering to the highest bidder and his science has never, ever been any good at all. Why can’t people read his bio and figure this out.
I for onw will join a militant group to prevent his dream from becoming reality. We do NOT need him and never have.
Reminds me of a graduate student in my PhD group who decided he didn’t need to do research. He was not terribly bright but he was secretive. Nobody he seen him for the longest time when then he showed up with data he had perfect stories for obtaining. I have no idea who was supposed to be his committee chairman but in the end the PhD paper he produced was accepted. He gloated he had been successful and we were PO’s beyond imagining. I on’t know what happened to him but I am still hoping it was a very negative ending.
Firing Fauci is OK, but seriously the man needs to be prosecuted.
That’s the moment I had big red flags. Not for the reason you mentioned, exactly, but seeing the combo of “WTF?” and “Oh, sh!t” look on PDJT’s face. It seemed he realized he was so screwed when the goblin began to talk.
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