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Coronavirus Mortality Study Continues to Confirm Overall Mortality Not Much Different Than a Bad Seasonal Flu
Gateway Pundit ^ | 06/18/2020 | Joe Hoft

Posted on 06/18/2020 9:16:49 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 06/18/2020 9:16:49 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Let's all stay focused on where this virus came from, on how we actually sent funding to a Chinese laboratory doing gain of function mutation research on Coronavirus, and on the deaths and economic hurt caused by this virus. IMHO, it didn't exist on Earth in the form it left China in until it was genetically modified.
2 posted on 06/18/2020 9:25:01 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: SeekAndFind

Even the government admits that the fatality rate is no more than 1/4 of 1%

“The CDC estimates for planning purposes that the .... overall infection fatality rate of 0.26 percent (as of 20 May).[389][390] “

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic#Deaths


3 posted on 06/18/2020 9:30:43 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Social distancing doesn’t appear to have much of an impact on overall mortality. Finally, the actions of the governor and health officials in New York caused that area to explode with cases and death, especially when compared to the rest of the country.

Cuomo, the murderous, incompetent dictator of NY.

4 posted on 06/18/2020 9:34:58 PM PDT by The Mayor (I am outraged at your outrage toward the outrage!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Flubros! Flubros ! Flubros !


5 posted on 06/18/2020 9:54:32 PM PDT by SecondAmendment (This just proves my latest theory ... LEFTISTS RUIN EVERYTHING)
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To: SecondAmendment

this is - not surprisingly - not RESONATING with the FakeNewsMSM so far:

18 Jun: NY Post: Gov. Cuomo ignores House call for documents, briefing on nursing home deaths
By Bernadette Hogan
ALBANY — Gov. Andrew Cuomo has refused a request by Congressional Republicans to provide documents and a staff briefing regarding the state’s handling of the COVID-19 crisis in New York State nursing homes.
“The nursing homes, is just pure politics,” Cuomo claimed during a radio interview with WAMC News ‘The Roundtable,’ Thursday afternoon...

On Monday, Rep. Steve Scalise of Louisiana, the top Republican on the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis, sent a letter to Cuomo and five other Democratic governors requesting several categories of documents pertaining to nursing home data.
Scalise and the other GOP congress members that also signed the letters — no Democrats signed on — gave the governors a Thursday deadline to provide information including the total number of COVID-19 positive residents transferred from hospitals to nursing homes during the pandemic and the total number of resident deaths that occurred in hospitals...
The state Health Department stopped publishing that data in May...

Scalise and upstate Rep. Tom Reed (R-Corning) also held a Zoom press conference demanding those documents, arguing decisions made early on in the pandemic by Cuomo’s health commissioner Howard Zucker potentially increased the death toll — now at 6,200 — in nursing homes...

Rich Azzopardi, a Cuomo senior advisor, argued the push from subcommittee Republicans is meaningless without Democratic support.
He also personally attacked Reed, a known-critic of Cuomo.
“Nothing can cover for the fact that specific federal guidelines were issued and followed by more than a dozen states, and that present state law, Section 10 N.Y.C.R.R. Section 415.26 states that a nursing home shall accept and retain only those residents for whom it can provide adequate care – specifically outlawing nursing homes from accepting patients they cannot care for,” he seethed.
https://nypost.com/2020/06/18/cuomo-ignores-house-call-for-docs-briefing-on-nursing-home-deaths/

even Politifact admits Cuomo’s mob are not being truthful!

13 Jun: Politifact: Andrew Cuomo stated on May 20, 2020 in a news conference:
“Why did the state do that with COVID patients in nursing homes? It’s because the state followed President Trump’s CDC guidance.” ...

Our ruling
We rate his statement Mostly False.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jun/13/andrew-cuomo/new-yorks-nursing-home-policy-was-not-line-cdc/


6 posted on 06/18/2020 10:38:07 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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19 Jun: ABC: Nursing homes represent more than 1 in 4 COVID-19 deaths
Nursing homes residents account for nearly 1 in 10 of all the coronavirus cases in the United States and more than a quarter of the deaths
By JUSTIN MYERS and RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR Associated Press
WASHINGTON: Nursing home residents account for nearly 1 in 10 of all the coronavirus cases in the United States and more than a quarter of the deaths, according to an Associated Press analysis of government data released Thursday...
Nationwide, nursing homes reported nearly 179,000 suspected or confirmed cases among residents and 29,497 deaths...

But CMS chief Seema Verma has said that “trying to finger-point and blame the federal government is absolutely ridiculous.” She says nursing homes with poor ratings on infection control are more likely to have high numbers of cases, a claim that academic researchers say they have not been able to substantiate.

Republican lawmakers also have blamed some Democratic governors who issued orders requiring nursing homes to take recovering coronavirus patients. New York rescinded its directive after Gov. Andrew Cuomo faced an outcry...

The AP has previously reported a higher number of 45,500 deaths, but that count incorporates assisted living facilities, not just nursing homes, and includes staff. The federal data reported Thursday is for nursing homes, since CMS does not regulate assisted living facilities...
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/nursing-homes-represent-covid-19-deaths-71333340

not much at Wikipedia - not RESONATING with the editors contributing to Cuomo’s page!

Wikipedia: Andrew Cuomo
Coronavirus response
In 2020, Cuomo received widespread praise from epidemiologists for his handling of the evolving COVID-19 pandemic in New York State, which includes a state-wide lockdown and a shutdown of non-essential businesses in an effort to help flatten the curve of the virus...
On March 25, 2020, Cuomo and the New York State Department of Health issued an advisory requiring the admission of patients to nursing homes who test positive for the coronavirus and barred testing prospective nursing home patients. This order was revoked on May 10 after widespread criticism from medical experts. Over 6,000 New York state nursing home residents have died of COVID as of June 2020...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Cuomo#Controversies


7 posted on 06/18/2020 10:39:50 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: Pontiac

LATER


8 posted on 06/18/2020 10:39:59 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: neverevergiveup
Re: “we actually sent funding to a Chinese laboratory doing gain of function mutation research on Coronavirus”

Just in case you or others are not aware...

USA coronavirus funding for the Wuhan Lab came from NIAID.

Dr. Fauci has been the Director of NIAID for 36 years!

In addition, the Director of the Wuhan Lab was the lead scientist for the “gain of function” research.

As far as I know, Dr. Fauci has never been questioned publicly about this remarkable coincidence.

9 posted on 06/18/2020 11:29:01 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: neverevergiveup

The economic hurt was and is self inflicted. Shutting down the economy was a hysterical overreaction. Keeping it closed is beyond reason. Time to open up


10 posted on 06/18/2020 11:36:41 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: SeekAndFind

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11 posted on 06/18/2020 11:57:28 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (THE DEEP STATE HATES YOU!)
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To: SeekAndFind

My wife was in our doctor’s office today and he told her that COVID-19 was totally overblown as a threat. And this is a highly respected doctor. He’ll wear a mask if you wear one. If you don’t wear one, he won’t wear his. We’ve had one death in our borough from COVID-19. One death in four months. And our population is over 100,000. That makes it tied for last place for all causes of death during the past four months in our borough.


12 posted on 06/19/2020 12:08:22 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (In time of peace, prepare for war.)
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To: zeestephen

By his advancement of ‘gain o function’ is not Dr.Fauci Dr.Murderer ?


13 posted on 06/19/2020 12:37:37 AM PDT by A strike (" Was that wrong? Should I not have done this? " - Costanza)
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To: A strike

Hat tip Bill Gates


14 posted on 06/19/2020 12:51:42 AM PDT by A strike (" Was that wrong? Should I not have done this? " - Costanza)
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To: SeekAndFind
PDJT nailed it when he called it a HOAX.

Of course walked it back rather clumsily

15 posted on 06/19/2020 3:02:01 AM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is important, as well as good news, and I commend the GP for its continued analyses of the situation. That said, there are still important points missing.

1. There are NO actual data on the mortality of seasonal flu - that’s right, NO DATA. The mortality of seasonal flu is based on models, not data, and we all know how bad modelling of illnesses really is.

2. Seasonal flu, at least, has somewhat effective vaccines. Vulnerable populations (I am among them based on my age) can, at least, elect to be vaccinated. That avenue is not available yet for the COVID-19 virus.

3. Though it was discussed in the article, in my view, this was not emphasized enough. Several states REQUIRED sick and contagious patients to be placed in units with vulnerable populations, sometimes even in the same rooms. This, greatly exacerbated the death rate. Just imagine if there were no vaccine available for the seasonal flu, and your state required that contagious flu patients were forced by the state into your home, and mostly vulnerable people lived there! That would be akin to murder.


16 posted on 06/19/2020 3:53:28 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Calm down and enjoy the ride, great things are happening for our country)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ridiculous

The mortality rate of CV is at least ten times that of seasonal flu.

I am not sure what the table at the bottom containing unspecified seasonal deaths is supposed to prove — I guess if we widen the cause of death sufficiently enough anything can be explained away.

Corona Virus is real and it is going to be a part of life for a while. It may not kill you, but if you’re real sensitive and prone to pout every time you see someone wearing a face mask at Piggly Wiggly then you’re going to have a hard time.


17 posted on 06/19/2020 3:57:02 AM PDT by CharleysPride (Bring Luke Denman and Airan Berry home!)
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To: Mom MD
“The economic hurt was and is self inflicted. Shutting down the economy was a hysterical overreaction. “

I agree, but initially it was driven by the unknown nature of what we were dealing with. The Chinese government was very stealth about the virus, and thus there were a lot of stories about how hundreds of thousands were dying in China, and about how the Chinese government was literally welding the doors of buildings in Wuhan shut - to force quarantine.

Further, as an MD you know that a fair number of patients, particularly early on, were developing ARDS and dying on ventilators. And, although most patients who die are from vulnerable groups, not all are, and healthy young people in their 20s and 30s also died (A fact. I saw some of them.). All of those things contributed to the perception that we were dealing with a uniquely deadly pathogen.

We've also learned a lot over the past several months, and I think we are much better at treating Covid now - including how to treat those patients who do develop a severe systemic inflammatory response.

So, I agree we overreacted, but I understand why. That the left is pushing for further shut-downs is political, and shouldn't happen.

18 posted on 06/19/2020 4:19:24 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: neverevergiveup

The initial 2 weeks or so of shutdown I understand. I don’t agree but I understand. After that it is criminal and it needs to be stopped now


19 posted on 06/19/2020 4:33:31 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: CharleysPride
As the article stated the reasoning for comparing deaths by all causes is to eliminate judgments by various authorities or jurisdictions.

If what you say "at least ten times" is true, it should show up in the numbers of total deaths by all causes. What this is saying is compared to the 2017-18 flu season 2019-20 is only .3 million deaths worse, (out of approx 2 million). Most of the fear is of death, and that is not born out of this study.

20 posted on 06/19/2020 5:36:49 AM PDT by WhoisAlanGreenspan? (Keep looking up.)
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