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UPDATE — FULL BODYCAM VIDEO Reveals Atlanta Police Being Patient, Respectful with Rayshard Brooks (VIDEO)
Gateway Pundit ^ | 06/14/2020 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 06/14/2020 9:26:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: rktman

At a (made up) News Conference last night the Family Lawyer said he did not get a Sobriety Test.

Then he said that Cops in College Towns just call an Uber for drunk White Kids if something like this happenes.


61 posted on 06/14/2020 10:57:45 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Kill a Commie for your Mommy.)
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To: edwinland

What you said


62 posted on 06/14/2020 10:59:13 AM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: Hatteras

Here are some simple rules I live by:
Rule No.1 if you want to live long: NEVER EVER PISS OFF a guy with a gun.

Rule No. 2: NEVER EVER get into a fight with a police officer and steal his taser.

Rule No. 3: NEVER EVER run away, then turn and shoot said taser at police officer who still has a gun.

IF you are stupid enough to get into a fight with a police officer, steal his taser, run away and then turn around aim said taser at him and then shoot said taser, you will most likely you end up dead.

Period.


63 posted on 06/14/2020 11:00:27 AM PDT by Chgogal (Wuhan Virus, Chinese Virus, Kung Fu Virus - Wuhan Chinese Kung Fu Virus aka CCP virus.)
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To: Vermont Lt

I read your post. You said he didn’t deserve to die. I said he did.

If the only crime he committed was a DUI, I would agree with you. However, as I explained, he did much, much more. He repeatedly assaulted them and was a threat to the officers lives when he was shot.


64 posted on 06/14/2020 11:06:10 AM PDT by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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To: alternatives?

Whatever. You are unable to comprehend two sentences.

I am willing to bet you did not even watch the video, right?

I am agreeing with you that he was 100% responsible for getting shot. How difficult is that for you to understand.

Take the win.


65 posted on 06/14/2020 11:08:30 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

I agree with you 100%. When the first video came out, I thought the police might have overreacted (shot an unarmed man running away), but with all the footage now, it is clear they did what they had to do.

It’s a real mess, I and livid that the cops were fired without due process and the chief resigned, probably urged to by the mayor (I really dislike the police chief and her politics, but this was not her fault)

I expect more and more police will quit if they aren’t allowed to defend themselves when threatened.


66 posted on 06/14/2020 11:14:44 AM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: moviefan8

I believe that the mayor ordered the cop fired and the police chief refused and was told to resign.


67 posted on 06/14/2020 11:21:46 AM PDT by Colo9250
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

There’s always been a strong anti-cop contingent at FR, they’ve rarely appeared to be RINOs, but IMHO, sort roughly into two groups.

1) Normals who once got a ticket they felt they didn’t deserve, or didn’t get the response they felt was in order from a call for service to their local police dept.

2) Libertarians, who mostly just wanted to smoke their weed in peace, and hated that individual officers saw no problem with enforcing laws against that. Those laws were so obviously unjust in their eyes, that they extrapolated almost all malum prohibitum crimes as evidence of “tyranny”, and in consequence, local LEOs as “jackbooted thugs”.


68 posted on 06/14/2020 11:24:00 AM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: shanover
I know some police will immediately cuff a suspect for their safety. What’s the point in having a discussion when an experienced officer can easily analyze the threat level and be in control cuffing and then ask simple questions going through the rest of the process.

A - Cuffing a suspect for questioning is simply not allowed in every state, regardless of how common-sense it might be.

B - There is always the risk that the suspect will not comply; you're back to square one.


Before the Great Stupidity, a patrolman had to be of a certain height in order to be allowed on the job; this ensured that he was bigger than most of the people he crossed paths with. Because that was found to be discriminatory or politically incorrect or too smart for the times, that requirement was done away with. So now you have a situation where two cops can't restrain a large man. (In one of the pictures of the incident at Wendy's, it's clear that Brooks was MUCH taller than at least one of the cops.)

The bouncer at the local gin mill is large enough to be intimidating to most of the patrons; it's not to physically threaten anyone, it's to let everyone know that short of drawing a weapon, they're going to lose in a confrontation with him. So a physically larger man solves problems before they even begin.

It's telling that private enterprise hasn't lost common sense but that our federal/state/local governments have.

69 posted on 06/14/2020 11:26:21 AM PDT by Captain Walker
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70 posted on 06/14/2020 11:26:45 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is heartbreaking to watch. I’m reminded of the old Andy Griffith show where Otis occasionally locked himself up for the night to sober up and then meandered on his way in the morning. This man looked like he needed an ‘Otis cell’. He was polite and cooperative through a long period of questioning. The officers were respectful and professional in tone, but it was all very long, repetitive and tricky for someone not in full possession of his faculties. Is this the way all enebriated sleepers in parking lots are treated? If so, I think there must be a better way - a more merciful way to get them out from behind the wheel and sobered up in safety. I don’t excuse the man for resisting arrest. What he did was stupid and led to his death. He was not in his right mind, panicked, and ended up dead. It’s a terrible price for all of them to pay. No winners here.


71 posted on 06/14/2020 11:47:52 AM PDT by Think free or die
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To: SeekAndFind

What is really interesting is the response of the bystanders, who did not know the cam was still on.

I heard one guy tell the arriving police that when the perp realized he was about to be arrested that he did what anybody would do when they were being arrested for no reason, fight back.

There are a lot of people I have fought and would fight, but two cops in a parking lot during an arrest? Probably not.


72 posted on 06/14/2020 11:55:09 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Criminal Shot Dead”

My favorite headline.


73 posted on 06/14/2020 11:57:56 AM PDT by dsc (As for the foundations of the Catholic faith, this pontificate is an outrage to reason.)
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To: wbarmy
"There are a lot of people I have fought and would fight, but two cops in a parking lot during an arrest? Probably not."

I agree, but then I'm sober and haven't been pumped full of anti-police rhetoric. Those who work so hard to divide us have much to answer for.

74 posted on 06/14/2020 12:05:55 PM PDT by Think free or die
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To: Think free or die

I must say he did well on the sobriety physical test for a drunk person who did not know where he was and failed a breath test. Fell asleep in the drive through line. Yep drunk. All he had to do was get put in the car. He would have been out next day and with a good lawyer might get off. The turning with the taser and firing was the most sad choice.


75 posted on 06/14/2020 12:14:43 PM PDT by RobyOnekanobee
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To: Think free or die
Is this the way all enebriated sleepers in parking lots are treated?

That is an unfair simplification. This implies that Mr. Brooks was parked and sleeping, when in fact, he was in the drive-thru line when he "passed out" or went to sleep, as you prefer. The Wendy's personnel then had to call 911 since the drive-thru lane was blocked. That is how I understand it. So he had been drinking and driving!

76 posted on 06/14/2020 12:24:26 PM PDT by Jersey Jim (Jersey - the land of the shoobies)
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To: Bob434

Police officer should have used a half Nelson, or a cross face cradle.

Brooks seems to have been a lot stronger and more athletic than at least one of the policemen


77 posted on 06/14/2020 12:31:15 PM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Jersey Jim

I don’t know how far or where a person needs to drive to support a DUI. From what I saw on the police tape, he was in the drive-thru lane blocking traffic when police were called. He said repeatedly that he’d been dropped off at the Wendy’s, describing basically a designated driver evening without calling it that. It is possible that his only driving was across the Wendy’s parking lot to the drive-thru. Is that enough for a DUI? I don’t know. Is there anything else on security cameras or were there other witnesses? I don’t know that either. I suspect all that exists, if it didn’t get lost in the fire, is a short snippet of him approaching the drive-thru window. It’s possible that he drove for miles in an impaired state, but documenting that would be difficult unless there are a lot of traffic cameras and someone were willing to go through all the footage looking for him. I doubt that would happen. A lawyer would work it out in the morning. My point is that he wasn’t harming anyone by passing out in his car, apart from inconveniencing other customers. Getting him safely off the road was the priority, and it’s tragic that it ended the way that it did. I’m not a big softy, but I don’t think that a polite drunk asleep in the drive-thru should have ended up dead.


78 posted on 06/14/2020 12:52:35 PM PDT by Think free or die
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To: SeekAndFind

I have black fatigue. Make Segregation Great Again.


79 posted on 06/14/2020 12:53:32 PM PDT by bkopto
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To: edwinland
here are a lot of Freepers who correctly object to the small percentage of murderous, corrupt, bullying or power hungry cops, or to militarized swat team tactics and no-knock invasions.

You forgot to mention civil asset forfeiture and the "good" cops and the police unions who cover for the bad cops.

80 posted on 06/14/2020 12:56:55 PM PDT by bkopto
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