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Why i will never take a government / orwellian produced vaccine
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Posted on 05/01/2020 1:02:16 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man

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To: Secret Agent Man

The vaccine “industry” refuses to have a real debate with Dr Tenpenny.


41 posted on 05/01/2020 3:53:33 PM PDT by Varsity Flight (QE 2020. All Quiet on the Western Front)
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To: dainbramaged

I got my one and only shot in 1966 when I enlisted. I was for two weeks sicker than ever I had been with Flu. I dodged the shot in the AF for 4 years and have not had one since. Since I discovered the efficacy of sunshine and vitamin D for preventing and curing respiratory viriiI have had no flu or cold at all since 2004. The chance that an effective vaccine against the Chicom Flu is remote. It mutates, as virii do, too fast. Any vaccine will be good against last year’s model and have limited or no effect on whatever is current.


42 posted on 05/01/2020 4:10:08 PM PDT by arthurus ( covfefe pox.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

I’ve never had a flu shot; never get the flu.
Weird


43 posted on 05/01/2020 4:29:18 PM PDT by DeplorableGirl
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To: dainbramaged

67 years old. My rule is if aspirin and a 6 pack of beer doesn’t cure it, nothing will (ok...anti-biotics do work, the few times I’ve need them, they kick butt). Jokin but in many cases “less is more”.


44 posted on 05/01/2020 4:41:56 PM PDT by Shark24
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To: freedumb2003

They say the virus is dead, but tests show that those who get vaccines are more likely to spread the flu to others. If you get a flu or measles shot, those around you are better off if you take a few days off before returning to work.

The elderly and immune compromised cannot build immunity well with or without a vaccination. The problem is they are old and weak. This group of people are the mass numbers of those dying from Covid and would likely not benefit from a vaccination.


45 posted on 05/01/2020 4:54:24 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer)
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Well you have fun not taking it. As someone who missed out on a bunch of vaccines and had to go through the viruses the hard way, all I gotta say is you are crazy. Why even the Jehovah Witnesses got past vaccines many years ago. I think the real insanity is that I think you represent a large segment of the crowd on this discussion board and I am in the minority. Yikes.
46 posted on 05/01/2020 4:59:39 PM PDT by hawkaw
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To: Secret Agent Man

i would particularly be wary of ANY vaccine RUSHED into production by skipping a lot of the normal testing for safety and efficacy ... my theory on stuff like that is to let Mikey try it first ..


47 posted on 05/01/2020 5:41:59 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: hawkaw

you phrucking ass

you didn’t even listen to the clips of the doctors themselves

you only listen to what you want to hear and ignore the very same people pointing out real, irreversible dangers and death potentials

you are the idiot to trust these people

they cant undo anything once inside you

but go ahead its your body

you won’t do it to mine, i will defend myself from you or anyone else

go ahead and take the vaccines and when you’re damaged or dead they’ll be untouchable because they’re legally exempt from their handiwork


48 posted on 05/01/2020 5:46:18 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

to wit the earliest widely used merck polio vaccine

the company, ie many many people within merck, scientist and business people,

knew that the simian-40 virus, sv40, among others, was in the vaccine batches.

this virus was one identified with cancer in primates

this is how the major upswing in cancer of all kinds in people, originated

youtube had the interview with one of the merck scientists who worked on this and he admitted it

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WeOt_uFPkg0


49 posted on 05/01/2020 5:51:03 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

A vaccine is basic science that works. I will take one if I feel it is effective. However I think I already had the Red Chinese flu so will wait to hear more on antibody testing.

There may be an issue however with vaccines in kids and how they are administered. When multiple vaccines are administered together in one appointment, that bunching up of them may be causing some of the issues we have heard about in kids.


50 posted on 05/01/2020 5:53:52 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Leave me alone, I have no incriminating evidence on the Clintons)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

the results are a lot different in practice than in theory

listen to the doctors themselves

like anything made by people it can damage or kill you despite your beliefs in them

and you’re screwed because its not reversible

do you really trust gates and fauci for a safe and effective vax?

after you know what merck did to the polio vax and gardisil you really want one of their vaccines in your body?

do what you want, no one will force me to take one and live


51 posted on 05/01/2020 5:59:47 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: TexasGator

I’ll tell you my source.

1st tour. A coy, 2 platoon, 3 section. 10 men. Flu shot was mandatory and I resisted and signed a waiver and didn’t take it. Everyone was sick except me. Now, I’m no mathematician, but I’m sure that’s even more than 50%.


52 posted on 05/01/2020 6:01:35 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: HereInTheHeartland

and its not just multiple doses at once, which is bad enough

its injections from multi-dose bottles

they contain damaging preservatives to the body that single
shot doses do not

and if that multi-dose bottle is not shaken up properly before sucking out a dose, because in multi-dose bottles the various ingredients separate,

you will be in trouble


53 posted on 05/01/2020 6:03:38 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ETCM

Count me in the Anthrax crowd—I’ve had 4 series, from the first to the latest and the smallpox, flu and a thousand others it seems. My Anthrax reaction was on my second tour, but I never made the connection. I got a booster right before I shipped home. I had a huge lump in my arm from the previous shot and never thought much of it; however, by the time I got back, I could hardly walk—I seriously felt like I was 80 years old. Took almost two years to finally diagnose rheumatoid arthritis, and I’m convinced it was in response to that immunization.

The number of military members with autoimmune diseases is much higher than the general populace, and there’s a reason. I don’t get flu shots and I won’t be taking the China virus shot. I’d rather take my chances against the bio agent, thank you.


54 posted on 05/01/2020 7:30:16 PM PDT by antidisestablishment
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To: antidisestablishment

Yeah, the anthrax shot series was pretty rough. I saw two guys just flop on the ground within a couple minutes of getting their first shot. And that hard marble sized lump that was painful at the slightest touch or movement was fun. God knows what we’ve been exposed to over the years.


55 posted on 05/01/2020 9:51:47 PM PDT by ETCM
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To: dainbramaged

Yup, I remember that era, and have never had a flu shot in my 70 year lifetime. It’s a gimmick for big pharma.


56 posted on 05/02/2020 12:36:40 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: ETCM

The thing that really frosts me is they still mandate them—even though the likelihood of that particular attack is negligible.

The world’ worst crimes are perpetrated by petty bureaucracies driven by inflexible policy. All it takes for evil to triumph is no one to question.


57 posted on 05/02/2020 5:59:28 AM PDT by antidisestablishment
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To: Secret Agent Man

No. I see what people like you and your views have done to others in the past, especially in religious cults. Thankfully, you are in the minority and medical science is allowed to advance and help protect the vast majority of us.


58 posted on 05/02/2020 8:15:49 AM PDT by hawkaw
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To: hawkaw

Yes I’m the one brainwashed. Look at what you wrote and see how brainwashed you are.

Note your straw argument about religion is worthless. Nothing I have based my position on has any reference to religion.

Go ahead and put your faith in companies like merck and people like bill gates and fauci, that they have your best interests at heart. Because you won’t even listen to these very same people discussing the dangers of vaccines, you can’t even handle hearing that.

Good luck with your Ostrich position.


59 posted on 05/02/2020 12:11:35 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I agree. You are brainwashed.


60 posted on 05/02/2020 12:30:11 PM PDT by hawkaw
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