Posted on 02/27/2020 5:59:49 AM PST by USA Conservative
Confederate soldiers were not fighting to keep slavery. Have you ever read and first hand accounts of history? OTH the union started the war to “preserve the union”. It was repackaged into freeing the black man when the war became unpopular and the needed to fire up the crazies up North.
Your pride was aroused by the assertions that a submission to these laws was a state of vassalage, and that resistance to them was equal, in patriotic merit, to the opposition our fathers offered to the oppressive laws of Great Britain. You were told that this opposition might be peaceably-might be constitutionally made-that you might enjoy all the advantages of the Union and bear none of its burdens. Eloquent appeals to your passions, to your State pride, to your native courage, to your sense of real injury, were used to prepare you for the period when the mask which concealed the hideous features of DISUNION should be taken off.
But the dictates of a high duty oblige me solemnly to announce that you cannot succeed. The laws of the United States must be executed. I have no discretionary power on the subject-my duty is emphatically pronounced in the Constitution. Those who told you that you might peaceably prevent their execution, deceived you-they could not have been deceived themselves. They know that a forcible opposition could alone prevent the execution of the laws, and they know that such opposition must be repelled. Their object is disunion, but be not deceived by names; disunion, by armed force, is TREASON. Are you really ready to incur its guilt?
President Andrew Jackson nullification proclamation 1832
“But I can anticipate no greater calamity for the country than a dissolution of the Union. It would be an accumulation of all the evils we complain of, and I am willing to sacrifice every- thing but honor for its preservation. I hope, therefore, that all constitutional means will be exhausted before there is a resort to force. Secession is nothing but revolution.The framers of our Constitution never exhausted so much labor, wisdom, and forbearance in its formation, and surrounded it with so many guards and securities, if it was intended to be broken by every member of the Confederacy at will. It was intended for “per- petual union,” so expressed in the preamble, and for the estab- lishment of a government, not a compact, which can only be dissolved by revolution, or the consent of all the people in convention assembled.
General Lee letter to his son Jan 21 1861
Even General Lee understood that secession was revolution. And revolution is treason.
I understand that.
If you truly live in Central Virginia, you must have black neighbors or know some blacks.
Have you ever asked them what they think?
I taught at big Southern University. I taught adult government IT workers over a 20 year period. I’ve talked about all kinds of things when we had breaks, lunch, etc., from hunting, fishing, history, and even politics. I asked some of them, people who were as bright as you or I, not Leftists, what they thought about the CBF and I tell you that’s what they said to me.
Now, I did ask about monuments and such, and they were clearly for keeping them and their Southern history. They don’t want that gone.
But it wasn’t the war, nor the KKK for the 20s, but the Civil Rights era fight that make them see the CBF as a symbol used against them.
A lot of it is fake; rumors and such of when they were kids and heard stories about white people with the CBF lynching them and burning crosses. No one I know actually saw that (the oldest of us were little children in the 60s) but it’s a pretty thick belief.
And yes, lynching and burning crosses did happen. How are they supposed to think about that?
I didn’t say it was right, just that it is true.
I agree with that. They saw their state as their country.
A lot has changed over the years but that what it was about to many.
The slave masters were not the Southern people, but rather the elitist democrat politicos that have been with us ever since.
Most Southern whites were too poor to afford a single slave.
Chapt 16. US Grant Memoirs.
Another DUmocrat trying to scrub their racist history...
https://www.meetup.com/pt-BR/patrioticsingles/messages/42080552/
It wasn’t an illegal rebellion. You might want to brush up on history and original constitutional law. And, do you support Lincoln’s many illegal acts to suppress the south, or was that OK?
No. To the left, we’re nothing more
than inbred, religious fanatics who are ignorant, fat lazy stupid morons
who love guns & the Bible.
We also love hunting(more guns) fishing, actual good food & college football.
And that’s why they hate us.
I used to respect the Marines; or I
should say their “leadership”.
Then you’re wrong.
Take down every statue of Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, every signer of
the declaration & constitution, rename
every street school & remove all remaining evidence of their lives.
They planned & carried out an illegal
rebellion.
Take them all down immediately.
Many US Army bases are named after Confederate generals. And the names of the streets on many of the bases carry their names. What a hoot!
Keep ALL US Marines off of every US Army base named after a Confederate general! This is going to get complicated.
Trump needs to fire this asshole NOW!
So George III was right ?
Amazing, where was this? Lebanon, the first time, 1958?
The Stars and Stripes are next. It won’t be long before Old Glory is their target. I reference the Dimocrat debate stage as evidence.
It’s only treason if you lose. Win a rebellion and you’re a hero.
Certainly according to Nike and Kapernick.
As one young man with a CSA battle flag tee shirt said to an agitated black with Malcolm X shirt, ‘You wear your x and I will wear mine. wear. I deeply resent the Malcolm Little cult and detest his vile countenance. The same for the fools who show up waving red flags some adorned with the hammer and sickle. However, people can wear or display what ever they want. If others don’t like it too bad, this is or was a free country.
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