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In His Speech, President Trump Gives Iran a Way out of Their Dilemma and Causes Democrat Heads to Pop as He Does
Red State ^ | 01/08/2020 | Streiff

Posted on 01/08/2020 12:55:31 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 01/08/2020 12:55:31 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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...were paid for with the funds made available by the last administration.

That's not a "slight exaggeration", it's a lie - anything that is not the truth, and NOBODY knows if this statement is actual truth, is a lie - period.

While I greatly admired the tenor of the President's speech this morning, slipping in little digs like this continually feeds ammo to the enemy media.

2 posted on 01/08/2020 1:03:34 PM PST by Redplum
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This is an exact statement of truth that you pathetic scum are desperately trying to spin away today.

were paid for with the funds made available by the last administration.

Obama gave them money that had been frozen for decades. To claim "it their money" is a shameless pathetic lie. There was no obligation what so ever to unfreeze those assess until Iran made just compensation for seizing the US Embassy in 1979.

Rational sane leaders do not hand over billions to the leading State Sponsor of Terror knowing it going to be used to attack your own troops and allies. That you scumbags are desperately trying to parse this in such a despicable fraudulent way today make you morally the same sort of scum as them.

3 posted on 01/08/2020 1:09:30 PM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s almost as if Trump colluded with Iran to embarrass the Democrats and the media. ; )


4 posted on 01/08/2020 1:10:53 PM PST by GSWarrior
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To: SeekAndFind

President TRUMP ….. always does the right thing.

Best President ever.

Thank You and God Bless President TRUMP!


5 posted on 01/08/2020 1:11:26 PM PST by EnglishOnly (eWFight all out to win OR get out now. .)
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Not necessarily. The agreement was signed in 2013. If, in fact, those missiles were constructed after that date, then they were paid for with the money we released to them. Of course, we may have no idea when they were built - but on the other hand, if they were newer models brought into service after we released funds, then in a very real sense that paid for them. A dollar (or whatever unit of currency) is a dollar is a dollar - they are fungible, and if those extra $150 billion weren’t available, then at least a portion of Iran’s forces literally wouldn’t exist.


6 posted on 01/08/2020 1:12:41 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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In His Speech, President Trump Gives Iran a Way out of Their Dilemma and Causes Democrat Heads to Pop as He Does

Where's the way out?

7 posted on 01/08/2020 1:15:18 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: GSWarrior

The money was sent to Iran in the dead of night with no congressional oversight and it was also splattered all over the talking head national news for a time. Touting it as bold and other Horse***t. The exact number was in the billions I know that one report stated 1.2B but I am sure its more.. This is enough money to fund all manner of terror type activity and Iran excels at this.

Frankly, we should have traced all the missiles back to their point of origin and sent our own. I can guarantee our would have hit their targets. The lesson being enough is a enough and the gloves come off.

I try to understand the liberal mindset on issues like this. They bitch when force is used under conditions when they are not in control and praise when they are. Political expediency is their motto... No thought, no ethics, clearly not what I call intelligent. Do they all have a brain tumor? Is it something in the water? Are they just wired wrong? Lately I just shake my head...Lies? Really do you live under a rock?


8 posted on 01/08/2020 1:20:50 PM PST by Nuke From Orbit
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To: SeekAndFind

It should always be called what it was, the unilateral, illegal, unconstitutional, treasonous and treacherous Iran deal.


9 posted on 01/08/2020 1:22:26 PM PST by Bullish (Covfefe Happens)
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they released Iranian funds before law suits could be finalized. The money was used against us.

It was a stupid thing for them to do...

What the hell are you talking about?


10 posted on 01/08/2020 1:24:01 PM PST by nikos1121
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To: SeekAndFind

As someone astutely pointed out, Iran does not need nuclear power as they are sitting on a sea of oil.

There can be only one reason they are developing nuclear anything, and that’s a bomb.


11 posted on 01/08/2020 1:27:06 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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I suspect that Iran is not exactly flush with cash these days because of the sanctions and the proxy wars that they have been involved with. The missiles used in the attack might have been in an arsenal and they were keeping them for some future event but very easily could have been purchased with money released to them by the Obama admin.

It is very possible that Iran wasn't capable of fighting a sustained war anyway. They might be willing to “make a deal.”

12 posted on 01/08/2020 1:27:12 PM PST by dhs12345
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And the US flooding the market with petroleum must be hurting them... and Russia, and Venezuela, etc.
13 posted on 01/08/2020 1:28:26 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: Redplum

Another RedState never Trump jackass checks in

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14 posted on 01/08/2020 1:29:49 PM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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Fallacy of the excluded middle.


15 posted on 01/08/2020 1:30:37 PM PST by sourcery (Non Aquiesco: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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Please look up the word “fungible.”

Did you think he meant the exact same paper bills? Add $100 to my checking account and I spend an extra 100 over and above next week. But wait, wait, wait !!! . . . I already had 200 in my account. So it’s a a lie that I spent the 100 you gave me.

Money is fungible. What am I missing?


16 posted on 01/08/2020 1:31:41 PM PST by Strident (< null >)
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It’s almost as if Trump colluded with Iran to embarrass the Democrats and the media. ; )

That would have credibility if Ali Khamenei--an old protegé of Rulloah Khomeini--suddenly is gone from the Iranian political scene. Khamenei was supposedly closely allied with Qasem Soleimani for many years.

17 posted on 01/08/2020 1:32:40 PM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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...were paid for with the funds made available by the last administration.

That's not a "slight exaggeration", it's a lie - anything that is not the truth, and NOBODY knows if this statement is actual truth, is a lie - period.

The cash payment of $1.7 billion, a settlement of a decades-old dispute between the U.S. and Iran -- was paid in cash, with a planeload of $400 million delivered to Tehran on Jan. 17 2016, the same day Iran agreed to release four American prisoners. A remaining $1.3 billion was reportedly paid out within weeks of that first payment.

The $150 billion, meanwhile, refers to the estimated value of Iranian assets that had been frozen abroad in financial institutions as part of international sanctions. That money was unfrozen by all countries as part of the Iran deal. Some fact checkers have disputed that the value is as high as $150 billion, citing Treasury estimates that it could be around $55 billion in liquid assets.

18 posted on 01/08/2020 1:33:29 PM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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How do YOU know it’s not true? Is it possible?

You posit: Anything we don’t know to be true is a lie.

OK. “You are a smart person.” Anybody here know if that’s true?


19 posted on 01/08/2020 1:39:36 PM PST by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and so few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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The President’s comments were excellent, forceful and quite diplomatic. I would have asked for the $150 billion back.


20 posted on 01/08/2020 1:39:41 PM PST by Quilla
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