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Students who pay for college from their own earnings will take it more seriously.
1 posted on 12/22/2019 6:44:30 AM PST by karpov
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They will overwhelm the system, and since it is free and they have no skin in the game there will be even more dropouts.


32 posted on 12/22/2019 8:15:05 AM PST by Agatsu77
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Since the demwits want to give everything away for free, why do they demand more $$$$ for their campaigns???


34 posted on 12/22/2019 8:28:38 AM PST by bgill
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The vast majority of universities/colleges in the nation are not-for-profit, meaning they don't pay most taxes. Many of these institutions have accumulated huge endowments.

I propose, that as long as these institutions are tax-exempt, they should be required by law to post ALL of their course materials online for anyone in the populace to access. Further, they should be required to post online testing, of the same material and substance that they require of their traditional students, and to confer certificates to those who pass, stating that they have fulfilled the same learning criteria that the traditional students have.

If they don't want to do this, then waive the tax-exempt status.

35 posted on 12/22/2019 8:37:15 AM PST by neverevergiveup
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still wind up without degrees.

This conclusion encapsulates the American Education problem.
Do we go to educational institutions to < get degrees > or to be educated? To learn?

To many people go to K-12 and on to PHD and get degrees. But they are not educated. They don’t know how to do math. They cannot write or read the Business Requirements Document.

Too often people who can read and write are told to slow down for those who can’t. They are told to expect a 5th grade reading level of college graduates.

still wind up without degrees. That thinking is the problem.


36 posted on 12/22/2019 8:56:57 AM PST by spintreebob
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TN started this a couple years ago. Funded it, wink wink, by adding tax to premium gas. There should be plenty of data to check the effectiveness of the program.
Even if it didn’t work, the tax still applies. Redistribution in a free state.


37 posted on 12/22/2019 9:06:02 AM PST by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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It’s really remedial high school. A system of 2 year trade schools as one chpice or a 4 year state school that offers an AA or AS option would be whats needed.


38 posted on 12/22/2019 9:31:34 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("Sorry, your race card has been declined. Can you present any other form of argument?")
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US dept of education COULD:

Create an Internet based core curriculum for Associates in General Studies - 60 hrs of math, science, English humanities, technology (3 classes of 3 credit hours for each of the categories above + 15 credits from elective classes). These class should be structured so that they can be passed via proctored test.

Make it available for $100 per year to access the training for US Citizens, $100 per quarter for non-US citizen students. $100 to take a test for a class. Assuming 2 years and passing each class first time the cost to a US Citizen would be $2,200.00 ($200 for 2 years of training $100 per test times 20 tests). Fees serve to offset the cost of course development and Internet access and administration of the program. Require Colleges to accept the above in order to receive Federal student loan funding or Pell Grants. That alone would cut the cost of a degree SIGNIFICANTLY

41 posted on 12/22/2019 10:45:18 AM PST by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt - dad's wisdom)
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Aaaaaargh.

It’s NOT free.


47 posted on 12/22/2019 2:38:49 PM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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