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Follow The Dots: MKUltra & The El Paso Shooting
DC Dirty Laundry ^ | August 6, 2019 | Kurt Nimmo

Posted on 08/06/2019 3:50:30 PM PDT by detective

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To: Fedora

Thanks much for the detailed info.


41 posted on 08/06/2019 9:58:22 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Jane Long
PS: while I'm on Breivik and Tarrant, let me add their fellow Odinist Jeremy Christian: Portland attacker pledged to slay Trump, Clinton in name of Nordic god
42 posted on 08/06/2019 10:02:45 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: walkingdead

We have to find the right people, and support them 100%. We have to make sure it doesn’t go the other way. We barely have the votes to win so we have to get out the vote and keep getting out the vote.

Otherwise we are in a world of hurt and will be leaving our children and grand children a country we would not want to live in. Fighting against this needs to be our legacy to the future of this country.


43 posted on 08/06/2019 10:10:57 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: Fedora

Great information.

Thanks for posting.


44 posted on 08/07/2019 2:48:53 AM PDT by detective
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To: Yaelle

I agree. The article does not provide the proof needed.

I was hoping to look at the father and the fact that the official explanation appears to be lacking.


45 posted on 08/07/2019 2:53:38 AM PDT by detective
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To: Moonmad27; detective

Absolute conspiracy madness or well-founded distrust? When trust in government is lost due to massive lying, treachery, and betrayal (an iron curtain and/or darkness) then the betrayed will search for answers that may or may not appear to be ‘madness’ for much the same reason that Orwell said that truth in times of massive lying is viewed as conspiracy madness. The United States has been cast into what Solzhenitsyn described as a fiery crucible. America’s fiery crucible is much like the Soviet Union’s up till its collapse.


46 posted on 08/07/2019 3:01:34 AM PDT by spirited irish
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To: Moonmad27

You must be involved then....I always had questions about you

/s

Freepers are BSC


47 posted on 08/07/2019 3:08:09 AM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: Fedora

Very interesting information. Thanks for posting.

My sources for my beliefs were a book and several older news articles on the subject. Also Netflix Wormwood gave some details I’ve also read elsewhere.

There are skeptics sounding out on this thread, which is OK, there will always be skeptics of anything, but these secret projects did go on. They are so well documented and the congressional hearings of the mid 70’s and Helm’s destroying documents related to such projects are proven historical fact.

We are not talking Big Foot or little gray men from outerspace here. We are talking real projects that were initially intended for the good of the countries defense.

Now take such projects and put them in the hands of those with absolute secrecy and unlimited/untraceable funding and things will go astray.

For the skeptics, the net is full of articles, such as:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/03/montreal-brainwashing-allan-memorial-institute

Where the CIA’s reach extended into Canada.

Much of what you said is really quite outrageous and doubtful. But the beauty of it is that’s exactly why it’s so easy to deny with a straight face while at the same time such things actually did go on. The creators of this madness are counting on their doings being so unbelievable that no one will believe it.


48 posted on 08/07/2019 5:30:11 AM PDT by redfreedom
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To: Codeflier

You may be embarrassed by these conspiracies but at some point it’s got to get your attention when you see all these high profile incidents with government (CIA, FBI, etc) associations.

David Hogg’s father is FBI and by chance David never went to school that day until *after* the shooting took place. Then there’s Christine Blasey Ford. She and her family had multiple CIA connections. And Zuckerberg started his company right after the government shut down its similar program. Doesn’t it make you wonder?


49 posted on 08/07/2019 5:45:11 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: detective

50 posted on 08/07/2019 6:46:46 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: PsyCon

“WOW ...every one named drove on an Interstate Highway.”
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My reaction exactly. STUNNING NEWS! /sarc


51 posted on 08/07/2019 6:55:59 AM PDT by House Atreides (Boycott the NFL 100% — PERMANENTLY)
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To: Fedora

Am sharing your post on TT. Thanks for sharing your knowledge !


52 posted on 08/07/2019 7:08:40 AM PDT by hoosiermama (When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.DJT)
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To: redfreedom; Fedora

Just watched a video saying Nixon was still in Navy when he did the paperwork on Operation Paperclip and knew where and who all the Nazi scientist were.

Fedora can you confirm that?


53 posted on 08/07/2019 7:40:43 AM PDT by hoosiermama (When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.DJT)
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To: detective

A trial in the future of EP shooter? Discovery? Imo father will be the defense excuse. Much will come out. Let’s see what THEY will do to hide the truth. Son was suppose to have been killed. No questions.


54 posted on 08/07/2019 7:46:18 AM PDT by hoosiermama (When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.DJT)
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To: Reno89519

every shrink is a mental mess


55 posted on 08/07/2019 8:31:18 AM PDT by allwrong57
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To: allwrong57

“every shrink is a mental mess”

I have similar observations. I wonder if they don’t want to study the field to figure out their own problems and wind up being professionals in that field?


56 posted on 08/07/2019 11:27:04 AM PDT by redfreedom
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To: Moonmad27
This is foolish and absolute conspiracy wackiness.

and it's not hard to find a receptive audience for stuff that fits that description

57 posted on 08/07/2019 12:22:02 PM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: Moonmad27
I'm sorry. I'm going to take your word for it that information on Timberlawn was wrong.

Though with so many attacks all within optimum timing of a tuning point in the CIA it did seem to perfect. We're looking for links between CIA action and these attacks.

It was a case that we wanted to believe Dallas News and some of the stories rather then knowing the details of the cases.

58 posted on 08/07/2019 1:12:51 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: hoosiermama
Short answer: no, I cannot confirm it. Details:

According to Nixon official records and biographies (for instance, the Naval History and Heritage Command website and Conrad Black's Richard M. Nixon, pages 62-63), after Naval Lieutenant Nixon was sent home from the Pacific theater in December 1944 for eventual promotion (to Lieutenant Commander on October 3, 1945), he was assigned in fall 1945 to Middle River, Maryland, where he was given the job of negotiating the end of wartime purchasing contracts. At that time, he agreed to stay in the Navy until New Year's Day, 1946, having already begun discussions with sponsors in the California GOP to run for Congress. He was released from active duty on March 10, 1946.

Now Operation Paperclip was mainly an Army intelligence/OSS project under the aegis of the Joint Chiefs of Staff's Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency (working closely with British intelligence, which tends to go under the radar in discussions of Paperclip), not primarily a Navy project, although the Navy did receive one of the first Nazi scientists evacuated under what became Paperclip, Herbert A. Wagner, in May 1945. Paperclip was officially christened as such in November 1945, as the successor to Operation Overcast and a prior unnamed project, which had begun in May 1945 and involved interviewing captured Nazi scientists but not yet evacuating them as Paperclip later did (however there were some early pre-Paperclip evacuations such as Wagner). Truman didn't officially approve Paperclip until September 1946, and evacuations were handled on a small scale (a handful of scientists at a time) until 1949 when evacuations were stepped up to the hundreds into the 1950s. So this leaves a very small time window for Nixon to have gotten involved in Paperclip paperwork. (Nixon and his former law partner Thomas Brewey did get involved in the evacuation of one former alleged Romanian fascist financier, Nicolae Malaxa, who was now an ostensible refugee from the Romanian Communists being barred from U.S. entry due to his alleged background, but this was not until 1951, and I do not know if it had anything to do with Paperclip per se--from the CIA's file on Malaxa, it sounds like he entered the U.S. on a regular nonimmigrant visa in February 1948 and then began applying for visa extensions, which does not sound like Paperclip to me.)

The rumor that Nixon reviewed Paperclip paperwork probably originated with John Loftus and Mark Aaron's 1994 book The Secret War against the Jews, page 221. In that work, Loftus and Aarons alleged that in 1945, Nixon was the navy officer assigned to review records for German oil company Continental AG aka Konti. Loftus and Aarons assert that Konti was in partnership with I.G. Farben, a client represented by Allen Dulles's law firm, and that Dulles protected Konti executive Karl Blessing (who had been removed from the Reichsbank board in 1939 for critizing Nazi policy and was apparently linked to the OSS-backed plotters against Hitler, a point not noted by Loftus and Aarons). Loftus and Aarons assert that Dulles told Nixon to keep quiet about what he had seen in Konti's records, and offered to finance Nixon's Congressional campaign in return. For sources on this, they cite unnamed intelligence community sources, but no documentary evidence. My own notes on Loftus and Aarons's book indicates that their intelligence community sources included Wilbur Crane Eveland, who was assigned to Army intelligence when Nixon was with the Navy in Maryland (in other words, how would he know what Nixon was doing?) and later became a CIA agent and got in a legal dispute with the Agency, suing Director Bill Casey. Loftus and Aarons also relied on tips from Senator John Kerry's staff. Reliance on these types of sources does not inspire my confidence in Loftus and Aarons's anonymous sources on Nixon. Also, even if their allegation was true, they do not mention anything specifically about Nixon and Paperclip. So I cannot confirm that Nixon handled any Paperclip paperwork.

59 posted on 08/07/2019 2:36:31 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora
Speaking of Eveland, I should add that this figured into his dispute with CIA: Eveland's profits never exceeded his debts, however. Without income, he hoped to live on his pension, but discovered that the government didn't think it owed him anything. Eventually, Eveland believed, the CIA leaked documents implying that he had passed secrets to his old friend, double agent and Soviet defector Kim Philby. Eveland was never able to get the government either to charge him with espionage or to pay him his pension.: A Respectful Dissenter: CIA's Wilbur Crane Eveland
60 posted on 08/07/2019 3:26:54 PM PDT by Fedora
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