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Follow The Dots: MKUltra & The El Paso Shooting
DC Dirty Laundry ^ | August 6, 2019 | Kurt Nimmo

Posted on 08/06/2019 3:50:30 PM PDT by detective

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To: mbrfl

and Epstein ...


21 posted on 08/06/2019 5:02:35 PM PDT by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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To: bankwalker

and Epstein …

You’re right! I had forgotten about Epstein.


22 posted on 08/06/2019 5:13:03 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: mbrfl
I had forgotten about Epstein.

That's their goal.

23 posted on 08/06/2019 5:14:57 PM PDT by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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To: bankwalker

Yep.


24 posted on 08/06/2019 5:24:43 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: robowombat

Timberlawn closed despite two years of work on renovation, and the parent company spending a lot of money to do so. Google Dallas Morning News Timberlawn for details. Dallas News seemed to take delight in luridly reporting any incidents there.


25 posted on 08/06/2019 6:12:58 PM PDT by Moonmad27
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To: Justa

“Eisenhower established the Interstate Highway system -and also MKUltra.”

No he did not, at least not as President. Truman got the ball rolling by recruiting Nazi’s at the end of WWII. MK = Mind Kontrol. Ultra = one of the highest security classifications of the era. There were other parallel projects of the era, Artichoke being one of them. It was all part of the cold war madness.

MKUltra and like projects were supposedly trashed as a result of the 1977 congressional hearings on the subject. Also the intelligence agencies were reorganized.


26 posted on 08/06/2019 7:11:38 PM PDT by redfreedom (e)
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To: detective

The shooter says it was not Trump inspired. Would he know best ? Assuming the manifesto is legit


27 posted on 08/06/2019 7:43:03 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

“It’s better then the FBI response that was given today on MSNBC. That Trump lowered the flag for a total of eight days which end’s on the eighth. There by The letter H is eighth in the alphabet, whereby 88 becomes HH. Everyone knows HH means Heil Hitler. There for the Trump is saying Heil Hitler on national TV.
The FBI did not retract it. They’ve lost there freaking minds!“

Holy cow, is this true?! How is it that I can no longer figure out what came from the onion and what did not.....


28 posted on 08/06/2019 8:27:18 PM PDT by walkingdead (By the time you realize this is not worth reading, it will be too late....)
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To: bagster

You need to see this of you haven’t.


29 posted on 08/06/2019 8:31:40 PM PDT by Jack Black ("If you believe in things that you don't understand then you suffer" - "Superstition",Stevie Wonder)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Do you happen to have a link to the FBI beil hitler comment? Absolutely outrageous if true!


30 posted on 08/06/2019 8:31:51 PM PDT by walkingdead (By the time you realize this is not worth reading, it will be too late....)
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To: walkingdead
FBI agent explaining how Trump said Heil Hitler on national TV:
The FBI has lost there minds.
https://youtu.be/DgBI6leb1G0?t=161
31 posted on 08/06/2019 8:32:09 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: redfreedom
MKUltra and like projects were supposedly trashed as a result of the 1977 congressional hearings on the subject.

Key word, 'supposedly'.

I also hear they terminated the Treadstone program.

(lets play figure out that reference)


32 posted on 08/06/2019 8:36:23 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Wow, just wow. I especially like how he says “I am not saying this is what happened” then went on to outline exactly how Trump made this 8/8 over the advice of his writers.

We are really in a bad way as a country.....how long before this whole mess blows up? I mean the FBI is actually making a case that Trump is in fact a Hitler loving white supremacist!

To be quite honest, we cannot hope for a Trump like president forever. And when the pendulum swings back the other way, we are all in big trouble.


33 posted on 08/06/2019 8:43:20 PM PDT by walkingdead (By the time you realize this is not worth reading, it will be too late....)
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To: walkingdead
I will talk about this latter. but notice this
One America News Network and others has now started to lie to us:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a20WI2sMJGs
34 posted on 08/06/2019 8:56:07 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: walkingdead
said, "we cannot hope for a Trump like president forever. And when the pendulum swings back the other way, we are all in big trouble."

I know. I'm hoping Trump can win the next election but now I'm not so sure. If we don't get control over the CIA we're fucked. I don't think people realize how important that seat for DNI was.

35 posted on 08/06/2019 9:41:04 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Moonmad27
said, " I worked for Timberlawn in a management position its last two years until and after it closed."

Why did it close from your prospective?

36 posted on 08/06/2019 9:43:27 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: redfreedom; Justa; detective; piasa; hoosiermama; Jane Long; maggief; bitt
Actually, chemist Sidney Gottlieb ran MKULTRA under Allen Dulles, and it's unlikely Truman or Eisenhower knew about what was going on apart from specific applications they were told about (for instance, Gottlieb got the CIA to propose that Eisenhower should authorize dosing Castro with LSD). Also, the "MK" cryptonym did not stand for "mind kontrol". It meant that the project was being run out of CIA's Technical Services Staff aka Office of Technical Service, which Gottlieb headed. There was a series of programs with the MK prefix, including MKNAOMI, MKDELTA, and MKULTRA successors MKSEARCH and MKOFTEN/MKCHICKWIT. Richard Helms destroyed some of the files related to these projects during the aftermath of Watergate. The projects continued under other names and sometimes other agencies--the MK projects were joint CIA/military projects, and some simply became military projects.

An important related point relevant to the recent shootings is that CIA began using cults for operations in the early 1950s, including specifically Scientology, per the memoirs of CIA agent Miles Copeland. A Scientology offshoot called the Process Church of the Final Judgment (made infamous by Charles Manson and also a subject of interest in the Sirhan Sirhan investigation) was involved in a number of mass shootings starting in the 1970s, most notoriously the Son of Sam shootings but also the 1977 Neptune Murders by neo-Nazi Fred Cowan, which was similar to the pattern of the recent shootings. The Process influenced other cults that operate under different names but use similar methods. Their most infamous front had a Satanic neo-Nazi ideology, but they actually had three fronts with three different ideologies (ranging from "Christian" to Satanist) to appeal to different groups, so they were also able to network with far-left groups such as the Diggers, the Situationists, the Soviet-linked Red Brigades, the FALN, and ecoterrorist groups, as well as the PLO and Libyan terrorists. Christchurch shooter Brenton Tarrant's manifesto referenced a Satanic symbol called the Black Sun and drew inspiration from Norwegian neo-Nazi Anders Behring Breivik, who subscribes to an occult ideology called Odinism similar to that of the Process. Patrick Cruisus's father hosted a New Age guru named João Teixeira de Faria who goes by the moniker of John of God and is the subject of a sex abuse investigation in Brazil. Connor Betts was a Satanist, who died wearing a hoodie with a quote referencing Satanic serial killer Richard Ramirez.

Another point to add: while CIA ran MKULTRA, the program was originally inspired by North Korea's brainwashing program, learned by the North Koreans from the Chinese; and the Soviets, the British, and likely others ran similar programs. By the late 1960s, the CIA's program had gotten "into the wild" and the technology was available for use by third parties, including for "contract" killings where a lone nut was called for to obscure the motive. On that note, Brenton Tarrant was radicalized in North Korea.

37 posted on 08/06/2019 9:48:57 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: detective

Could be, but the article does not make the connections tight enough. Three degrees of separation are huge, especially when one doesn’t know how close if at all the players ever were to each other. I am surely 3 degrees of separation from a lot of people with whom I have nothing to do.


38 posted on 08/06/2019 9:50:50 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: PsyCon

While I am skeptical of these incidents, this document does not prove any association.


Perfectly said.


39 posted on 08/06/2019 9:51:25 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Thanks for posting that link.

Unreal.


40 posted on 08/06/2019 9:57:42 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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