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Grazing Land Inventory, USDA on site survey
myself ^ | 7/1/19 | me

Posted on 07/01/2019 11:10:27 AM PDT by Black Agnes

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Any unofficial legal advice and/or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
1 posted on 07/01/2019 11:10:27 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Is it private property or is it BLM or state?


2 posted on 07/01/2019 11:13:25 AM PDT by tiki
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To: Black Agnes

If it’s her property I would tell them to stay off.The property is private.So don’t trespass.

If she is leasing the property from the government she can do nothing.Afterall they’re the property owners.


3 posted on 07/01/2019 11:17:23 AM PDT by puppypusher ( The world is going to the dogs.)
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To: tiki

Private property.

My dad just died last year.

I think they probably targeted her because she’s a new 80yr old widow.


4 posted on 07/01/2019 11:19:10 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Make sure it really is the USDA first.


5 posted on 07/01/2019 11:20:38 AM PDT by Ingtar
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To: puppypusher

And, this is the official site for the survey in question:

https://www.nrcs.usda.gov/wps/portal/nrcs/detail/national/technical/nra/ceap/na/?cid=nrcs143_014159

Their ‘affiliates’ include (dun dun dun):

“State of the Nation’s Ecosystems offsite link image by The Heinz Center is an important effort to develop indicators for ecological values of what they call grasslands and shrublands.”


6 posted on 07/01/2019 11:28:27 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Ingtar

It is the USDA, there’s an official website for this stuff.


7 posted on 07/01/2019 11:29:05 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Your friendly gov worker will happily tell you the legal basis for their entry if you ask them. There may be something in place contractually that your Dad set up with the Feds that your Mom is unaware of. If they can’t answer your question, tell them they need a warrant and contact your congressman same day.


8 posted on 07/01/2019 11:30:12 AM PDT by fruser1
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The land is in a family held corporation. We have no such deals or understandings with the feds.

The fact that the Heinz famiy is associated with this gives me the heebie jeebies.


9 posted on 07/01/2019 11:33:17 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: wardaddy

Any of your kin gotten anything like this before?


10 posted on 07/01/2019 11:33:51 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

BOOKMARKING


11 posted on 07/01/2019 11:38:45 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (We had entirely enough government in 1789.)
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To: Black Agnes

Did she take govt money, now you pay the cost.....................


12 posted on 07/01/2019 11:39:27 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Black Agnes

Tell them via certified mail you expect a complete brief including who will be on your property, the dates, all equipment they’ll be bringing, etc.

Set up game cameras at all access points and post the property immediately. Not sure about your state’s laws, but only a game warden can legally enter posted property in mine without a search warrant. If they just show up, report them as trespassers, contact your Rep and Senators, find an attorney and file suit.


13 posted on 07/01/2019 11:40:39 AM PDT by GreyHoundSailor
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To: Black Agnes

It might be a good idea to have somebody younger stay with her, until this is sorted out. I have a bad feeling about this.

And make sure the perimeter is thoroughly posted with “no trespassing” signs.


14 posted on 07/01/2019 11:42:38 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Take government money for what?

It’s a ‘house place with land’. She get SS every month.

No money for that land has taken place. She pays property taxes on it every year.


15 posted on 07/01/2019 11:43:20 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Send them a registered letter, return receipt requested. State in no uncertain terms that no permission is granted. Send a copy to the County Sheriff and other local relevant LE, also by registered mail.

Follow both up with phone calls once delivery is established. Tell them ANY trespassing on your private land will be cause for arrest and that you will file charges.

Do not screw around with these people.

L


16 posted on 07/01/2019 11:43:36 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

We’re going to ‘post it’ in the next day or two. It’s already fenced with a gate.


17 posted on 07/01/2019 11:43:59 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

I’m worried they might try to designate your land as some “endangered species habitat”.

Tell them, certified mail, that they do NOT have permission to be on your land, and that you will prosecute trespassing to the full extent of the law. Better yet, invest some money in having your attorney send the notice.


18 posted on 07/01/2019 11:48:05 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: SauronOfMordor

We’re worried about the same thing (fake endangered species crap).

It’s a suburban home, not mcmansion, with about a 10ac ‘front yard’. My parents have lived there over 20 years and never had cows or horses or anything there. It’s bush hogged a couple times a summer.

It’s hinky to me that they waited until AFTER my daddy died to hit up the 80yr old widow with this.

And it was a bully letter. Basically TOLD her they WERE coming. And IF she wanted a day or two notice she could call the local USDA office and they’d ‘try to accomodate her request’.

What a bunch of assholes.


19 posted on 07/01/2019 11:51:33 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: PeterPrinciple; Black Agnes

As PP said if your family took crop related money from the USDA there may be no way to stop them.


20 posted on 07/01/2019 11:52:29 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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