Posted on 06/25/2019 4:10:47 PM PDT by Starman417
There should be enough evidence to convict Yates, McCabe, Strzok, Page and some of the others who had a hands on role.
But unless there is direct evidence or testimony linking Clapper and Brennan then they will plead ignorance and incompetence and say that their underlings kept them in the dark. It’s up to the prosecution to show that they knew crimes were occurring or even better that they participated. It’s not enough for us to know that they are guilty if there isn’t evidence that will convince a court.
I hear you. It is just breathless stories about possible punishment of the usual suspects get old. This is conservative media playing us. Liberals do the same. I wonder how many believe what they write or care.
I refuse to believe it until I see Clapper indicted. Period.
It’s just the yellow hair and orange complexion enhancer switch
The maximum number of clicks has to be harvested before anything really happens. Follow the money (media slow walking).
In my days in the Regular Army O, I never completely trusted the Intel weenies, although almost everyone of them were very smart and very ambitious.
In my early days in the 82d Airborne Divison, I spent much of my time plotting and scheming to get more jumps, it being the number 1 metric of manliness. The Brigade Commander, in his infinite wisdom decided to make me the Assistant S-2 (Intel) which required lots of work, resulting in few extra jumps. Very shortly, I became the S-2, and shortly thereafter we were alerted to jump into Jordan to rescue hostages and several airliners that had been full of passengers, now hostages. Now, I was very, very busy and I got lots of help from the Intel Community who were complete strangers to me, but were very smart but very nervous about jumping out of an airplane. The Brigade Commander was pressured to replace me with a real intel weenie with the rank to match the job, but he decided to go with me, an Infantry type.
In the end, the crisis was resolved by the State Department weenies and though we departed Ft. Bragg, we were turned around somewhere over the Atlantic. I learned about Intel Weenies while I was at it.
My next little step on the career ladder was as a Long Range Platoon Leader in the Central Highlands of Vietnam where I learned that since my Troop Commander and Squadron Commander didn’t much care (being Aviators), I worked for the Corps G-2 (Intel) and G-3 (Operations). the G-2 decided where our patrols needed to go, and the G-3 decided if it made sense. The G-2 types were, of course, very smart, but I never saw them during the mission. Only at the mission briefing, the de-brief and at the Pleiku Officer’s Club. They did not like the getting shot as part of Intel gathering.
I became suspicious of these Intel types and at every step along the way, my experiences were reinforced by my earlier experience. Smart and ambitious and spent most of their time working to impress Colonels and Generals. I worked hard to impress the privates and Sergeants, the one who really counted. I didn’t see them when it was wet, cold, and the chow was hours late.
I can’t believe that Clapper was so willing to sell out the country for his own ambitious goals, but I guess that I should not have been surprised.
Hey, that has a ring to it: “Liar, Leaker, Traitor, Spy.”
Reminiscent of “Soldier, Sailor, Tinker, Spy.” Was that intentional?
Make that “Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy.”
You clearly have a very limited knowledge of the Intelligence Community.
That could be. I certainly tried to stay away from them, and I certainly know some very good exceptions. But I have been looking for evidence that could change my opinion without much luck.
What do you think of Clapper and Brennen?
If you watch any of the testimony given under oath from both Yates and Clapper, see how they squirm when asked by Lindsey Graham about the unmasking of Gen. Flynn. (LINK)
This is the crux of the REAL scandal, as Dan Bongino has been pointing out on his show and did today as well.
The question is: How did the Obama Administration have access to the conversation with the Russian Ambassador that Gen. Flynn was prosecuted for making false statements on? (They 100% had a transcript of Gen. Flynn's conversation, otherwise...how could they know there was a disparity?)
The Obama personnel have INSISTED that the conversation was recorded as a part of incidental monitoring. That is what they have maintained. This all started because they read a press account of a discussion between VP Pence and Gen. Flynn that, according to the scummy professional liar Sally Yates, "they knew not to be the truth".
Fair enough. If we take them at their word, the transcript of the recording, to protect Gen. Flynn as an American Citizen with rights, would have looked something like this:
RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR KISLYAK: Hello [REDACTED], how are you? Congratulations on your new position.
AMERICAN CITIZEN: Thank you. We are looking forward to getting to work.
RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR KISLYAK: I have a few things to discuss with you before the inauguration of Mr. Trump.
AMERICAN CITIZEN: Of course. What is on your mind?
And so on. Gen. Flynn would have never been identified in the database. To find out who was talking to the Russian Ambassador, there would have to be a formal 702 request to "unmask" that AMERICAN CITIZEN and reveal his identity. They wouldn't have known.
So, the question is...and the question Lindsey Graham posed to both Yates and Clapper was...would there be a record of this formal request to unmask the identity of the American Citizen speaking with the Russian Ambassador?
A very good question indeed. There would HAVE to be a formal "unmasking request" so as not to break the law.
Then, watch after Graham asks that very pointed question...Yates pompously hides behind the veil of security. Clapper, who is more of a dimwit, stumbles and dissembles, then has to admit, if it were a 702 request...yes, there would be a record of it.
So. The point is...when that news report with Flynn statements to Pence that the POS Yates says that "They knew not to be the truth"...how indeed did they know that not to be the truth? Did they read that transcript of the conversation before the Press report of Pence's conversation with Flynn?
Really?
That is the nut of the issue. WHO ASKED FOR THE "UNMASKING" OF THAT ANONYMIZED "AMERICAN CITIZEN", WHEN DID THEY ASK FOR IT, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY...WHY DID THEY ASK FOR IT?
Because if they asked for it up front, someone was mining the database for a purpose. And the real scandal is...that is going to be the TIP of the iceberg. There was a LOT of intelligence gathering on a wide variety of "American Citizens" from contractors mining the NSA database (prompting Admiral Rogers to shut off NSA Contractor access to the database in April 2016), couple with RECORD volumes of 702 "unmasking requests by the Obama Administration (from NSA statistics):
That is the real scandal. And the tap-dance around this by both Yates and Clapper (not to mention Susan Rice outside this venue) is very telling.
They can’t prosecute any of the crimes of the Kenyaneisan Usurpation without exposing that BOTH parties conspired to violate the Constitution.
Never
Going
To
Happen
I hope so because I think they are guilty as hell.
Justice demands that each ‘shop’ in the Obama Administration will have to take responsibility for Crossfire Hurricane. At least 1 individual from FBI, CIA, NSA and the White House itself will have to sit in the dock. The FBI will probably have several. But the key will be Clapper, I think. He’s weak and signalling g his willingness to roll on others. With Clapper you get Brennan and Yates. Comey will be defiant to the end... sort of a latter day G. Gor do Liddy.
Clapper will roll on Soetoro to save himself.
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