Posted on 05/23/2019 6:11:27 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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In my few courses in art school, I realized the teachers were not interested in teaching drawing or sculpting. They were there just to fill in their time “teaching” modernistic “art”. “Do this, do that.” then they would go to the lounge for an hour or so, leaving the students to try and figure what they were supposed to do.
I looked around at the students, and realized most of them were there to learn HOW TO DRAW, compose pictures, paint. Not modernistic crap.
I did better with a mail-in illustrator’s course, and Walter Foster books.
As long as you don't expect to make a living at it.
if you do hope to make a living in the arts, however, it's best to master a skill for which others are willing to pay.
The real culprits here are arts schools that are defrauding their students.
Maybe there should be something similar to a 'truth in lending' statement when kids pick their majors...
I remember those ads! They were also on matchbooks that came with my Dad’s Lucky Strikes.
My nephew is a graphic artist currently working at a major games manufacturer in CA. Haven’t you ever met an artist who works in major advertising?
I thought a lot of advertising art jobs were offshored to places like Korea.
As far as I know, a lot of agencies are still headquartered in NYC.
True, but the actual creative work is done offshore.
I don’t know about that.
“But creativity does not lie in self-indulgence. Creativity grows from mastering a domain. True creativity is born after skills become second-nature, not before. “
This is true of almost all things. This is why “new math” doesn’t work very well. It spends way too much time on why and not much on how.
I spent 35 years teaching financial accounting, among other things. The only approach that worked with the vast majority of students was to practice the mechanical functions of debit, credit, and financial statement preparation until it was automatic. Only then did something go “ding” in their heads and the understanding of “why” developed. No amount of explaining the “why” would work with students who had no concept of accounts receivable or the difference between capital and cash.
Of course, there are the few students who get the “ding” almost immediately, but they are the exception. Humans learn by mastering skills first and then understanding the “why” later. That is true of art, music, math, history, accounting, plumbing and pretty much anything else you might want to become expert doing.
The point in this forum is correct. An art degree is considered a soft program with limited worth in terms of job opportunities and pay. I was lucky I didn’t have a formal art education until it was a personal achievement.
When I retired from the air force I won a job that had been posted for a PHD level. My unique resume stressed my accomplishments with no degree.
Artrenewal.org is one of the supporters of the atelier movement and is dedicated to realistic art. You can join and be a member of the NRA to. It’s legal.
They have one of the largest online art collections in the world. A very worthwhile organization that is very active with shows and seminars and instructional materials.
Join now.
Brilliant.
Agree. It's interesting that Prince William and the Duchess of Cambridge both majored in Art History at St. Andrews.
My younger daughter's boyfriend works in video game animation. He makes a 6-fgure salary with lots of perks and often works from home. They live together, my daughter works for a software firm and also often works from home, also making great money. She is also an excellent artist and sometimes assists him. There is no reason why artists can't make money, if they are focused and know where to work.
My younger sister studied at the SF Academy of Arts University. She was disappointed that my daughter, at the age of 5 years old was a better artist. What came natural to my daughter, was a tough learning task for my sister. Sister never did make any money from her art, while my daughter did. Sometimes schooling is a waste of money.
Art colleges struggle with the toxic perception that their graduates are qualified for nothing and have been bankrupted by their education. They take on tens of thousands of dollars in debt, only to be employed as burger-flippers clutching a worthless degree in their paint and grease-splattered hands. Their prospects are dismal: A 2018 Bankrate report noted that over 9 percent of them are unemployed, and fine art degrees ranked last of 162 different majors for their employment prospects—more than triple the average. Appallingly, with a 7.7 percent unemployment rate, high school dropouts are more likely to get a job than art majors. Of an estimated 2 million arts graduates, only 10 percent make a living as working artists.
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