Posted on 03/14/2019 8:13:00 AM PDT by Sopater
Red Flag laws ARE TOTAL GUN CONTROL.
If they pass, every liberal in the country will call and tell the local police you have guns and they feel ‘threatened’.
That’s all it will take to have them removed from you.
At 5 a.m on Monday, November 5, two police officers came knocking
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5 a.m., cold, dark November - - - must be Publisher’s Clearing House.
How about calling in red flags on Lindsey’s and Rubio’s bodyguards?
It sounds nice, but it won’t pass constitutional muster.
You can’t take away a person’s rights unless they lose them via a court trial or confession, or they are certified incapable of taking responsibility for themself.
This thing simply can’t meet that bar.
Minority Report, pre-emptive abrogation of a constitutional right. Capricious and arbitrary. I doubt it would withstand judicial review.
“You can’t take away a person’s rights unless they lose them via a court trial or confession, or they are certified incapable of taking responsibility for themself.”
Sure you can if you’ve got a Marxist judge.
...deemed a threat to themselves or others.
You can only be deemed a threat via some legal action - like a court conviction or forced institutionalization. You can’t just take a guy’s gun because aunt Nelly and her brood say cousin Joe is gonna shoot somebody.
Well, yeah, if this stuff makes it, it will make it to the Supreme Court eventually. They have a reputation to uphold.
The laws are there. They’re just not being enforced. Kinda like the border wall.
But ... I'm sure anti-gun bias would even seep into this practice.
Otherwise, TOTALLY ARBITRARY ... therefore UNCONSTITUTIONAL!
BIG. FAT. HELL. NO.
Remember that the way our court system works the Court nominally cannot even consider the act until after many guns will have been siezed.
The Left prefers to ask for forgiveness rather than permission because 1) they know the Republicans aren’t likely to hold their feet to the fire once they can assert that the “ship has sailed” and 2) they know they’ll be able to disarm many even if later slapped down.
Generally, that is the way I see this. You can’t just take a guy’s guns on heresay of scared people. He has a right to a day in court before you simply take away his rights.
Actually, it’s totally unconstitutional because there is no delegated power given the federal to enact such a law in the first place.
All current federal gun control laws are in defiance of the Constitution. Every last one.
Just so long as they are ONLY concerned with confiscating guns from law abiding citizens, and don’t address the criminal element, we can’t have armed citizens that can defend themselves from criminals...Because we all know that one more stupid gun law is going to change the way criminals think.
How about harsher penalties for crimes committed with guns, mmmmmmm, you know, llllliiiiiikkkkkkeeeeee, the death penalty for anyone using a firearm illegally…Or committing a crime…Just spit balling here, but those are some good ideas, but then again we would be locking up democrats, so I guess we can’t have none of that….
Thank you democrats, you are ruining the future for my grandchildren….
If a person is that incapable & poses that much a public threat, then that person should be committed via court order to an institution as opposed to abridging their Rights.
I doubt it would withstand judicial review.
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Do you trust Roberts to uphold the Constitution?
He swore in the Kenyanesian Usurper, despite his not being eligible.
How about REAL harsh penalties for making false statements to police or judges?
That’s already perjury, isn’t it? Which is already a felony in most states.
Then include restitution to the falsely accused, to come out of the false accuser’s hide.
Make it clear to any potential accuser that they’d d@mn well better have their facts straight before they drop a dime.
Well guess what, folks - the CA Red Flag law downgraded making false statements from a felony to a misdemeanor. Your angry liberal neighbors are now the state’s Gestapo agents.
“You can only be deemed a threat via some legal action - like a court conviction or forced institutionalization. You can’t just take a guy’s gun because aunt Nelly and her brood say cousin Joe is gonna shoot somebody.”
You can now in Colorado. Red Flag is the law.
They will let it sit for a while—no abuses while other states pass it. Then they turn the temperature slowly up by redefining the meaning of each term in what it means to be crazy in the bill. Eventually, this is a very effective total gun confiscation bill as to the middle class, which is the primary goal of the Pelosi’s et al anyway.
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