‘Everything stays on the table’: 2020 Dems weigh killing the filibuster

Politico ^ | January 31, 2019 | Burgess Everett and Marianne Levine

[GOPJ]

A Dem president with both House and Senate might not be so lazy. I hope we don’t find out.

Our guys quake in their boots when we control the Presidency, Senate, Supreme Court, most governorships and most State Houses. If democrats controlled what we control they'd turn the country into a socialist hellhole in the blink of an eye.

[Verginius Rufus]

It used to be that a two-thirds vote was needed for cloture...and it dates to before the Civil War. It was designed so that pro-slavery senators could block anything that might be a potential threat to slavery.

[dvwjr]

"It used to be that a two-thirds vote was needed for cloture...and it dates to before the Civil War. It was designed so that pro-slavery senators could block anything that might be a potential threat to slavery."

Actually, the two-thirds Cloture rule was adopted by the Senate on March 5th, 1917 at the urging of President Wilson. Before this date there was not way to cut off debate, so its adoption had nothing to do with the pre-Civil War period, it concerned issues of the WWI period.

dvwjr

[Vaduz]

Democrats still pretending they have new ideas that will work Obama winks.

[USS Alaska]

The filibuster is not a super majority requirement. You don’t need a super majority to pass legislation. It is used to end debate. If McConnell had any balls, he could force the Dems to stand at the podium 24/7 until they gave up. Instead, they just refuse to bring up the bill for debate unless they have 60 votes. Cowards.

This is the absolute truth. The senate can keep the real filibuster, which was a senator had to stand and talk, on the floor of the senate, until he couldn't, and the filibuster was over.

Witness 2013 when Senator Ted Cruz began his filibuster against obummer care and it lasted a little over 24 hours, when he couldn't go further, the filibuster was over.

The dems forced the pubbies to filibuster by the rules, the pubbies give the demonRATs a pass. They threaten a filibuster, and every body goes home. COWARDS.

[Verginius Rufus]

I should have been more careful. I believe the filibuster goes back to the pre-CW period. I didn't know that the cloture rule had a different history.

For a long time the Democrats required a two-thirds vote for a person to become the Presidential nominee--so that the Southern Democrats could block anyone they didn't like.