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Did Bre Payton Die From the Flu Vaccine?
paleofam.com ^ | 12/28/18 | Paleo Fam

Posted on 12/29/2018 6:07:23 AM PST by a little elbow grease

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To: semimojo

If words mean nothing to you there is little to say.


82 posted on 12/29/2018 12:05:55 PM PST by a little elbow grease (Duct tape and cable ties have more worth than pussy hats and resistance.)
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To: a little elbow grease

At least have the guts to stand behind your slurs.


83 posted on 12/29/2018 12:10:38 PM PST by semimojo
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To: semimojo
Save it. There were no slurs.

Get some food in you, your imagination is taking you astray.

Seriously, you are way off base. That grizzled old left-handed pitcher has a nasty pickoff move. Be careful or the dugout awaits you.

******

I gotta go make a few pizzas for the crazy football fans here.

Happy New Year to you and yours.

84 posted on 12/29/2018 12:24:51 PM PST by a little elbow grease (Duct tape and cable ties have more worth than pussy hats and resistance.)
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To: TheConservativeBanker
...I rarely see the same snarky dismissals of MSM articles used to start discussion threads here.

Never thought I'd see anyone criticize FR for being too easy on the MSM.

85 posted on 12/29/2018 1:03:38 PM PST by semimojo
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To: a little elbow grease
I gotta go make a few pizzas for the crazy football fans here.

Funny, I was just making my dough for tomorrow.

Enjoy!

86 posted on 12/29/2018 1:05:34 PM PST by semimojo
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To: a little elbow grease
No one here or in the article attributed her symptoms and sudden death to a flu vaccine.

The article title:"Did Bre Payton Die From the Flu Vaccine?"

Halfway in: "There are risks to getting the Flu Shot"

The end: "If Payton did not get the vaccine, it’s possible that it could have saved her life. If she did get the vaccine–on the other hand–it’s possible that it actually contributed to her death. That is the paradox of a life-saving medical treatment with serious side effect"

The authors wrote a click bait title and are trying to use her death to sell their "healthy living" products. There are four links on the page to buy what the site is selling. I'm not alone in finding that distasteful.

87 posted on 12/29/2018 1:09:13 PM PST by Widget Jr
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To: GraceG

You’re right. Vaccines are made so primitively and the adjuvants (aluminum, etc) are overkill. I’d much rather enhance and calm the immune system to get to its best function. This primitive overstimulation is wrong. The medical idea of vaccination is genius. It just needs to be updated with more science from today. It won’t be, because it’s protected by the government.

You know, like why tracking numbers from the post office don’t work as well as amazon’s. ;)


88 posted on 12/29/2018 1:18:54 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Paal Gulli

So get your gall-danged flu shot already, because you’re endangering the rest of us if you don’t.


Um. How does that work?

I don’t get a flu shot. You do. You believe the flu shot is “immunizing” you from getting the flu. So how does whatever happens to me, affect you anyway?

Don’t say herd immunity because it’s BS and not science at all.


89 posted on 12/29/2018 1:21:17 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin); Vaquero

Logical fallacies don’t apply to medical issues.

IF vaccines cause more serious side effects than we’re told

THEN it follows that we should know,
and should make a clear determination whether they’re worth it.

I don’t know. I did have a flu shot this year, but did not for many years because I don’t trust the government, esp public health, ESPECIALLY in Southern CA where we’re deeply affected by illegal immigration and are consistently lied to about the effects... including public health.

I asked the medical assistant whether flu shots really helped prevent onset of flu; she responded with “maybe it won’t help YOU but it can help prevent spreading to others”
which seemed incoherent...but she seemed surprised to be asked...

it might be related to the push to use vaccines to protect us FROM the interesting illnesses coming across border.


90 posted on 12/29/2018 2:30:21 PM PST by Josco
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To: humblegunner; a little elbow grease

Better sarcasm than the rest, but begs the question...

Anti-vaxxers aren’t necessarily opposed to all vaccines, esp those shown to be effective.

I’m agnostic about vaccines as they stand now because I spent my life in academia and know how dishonest “the literature” is on everything that relates to all things political.

I used to wonder why my public health students were some of the most liberal...I naively thought they dealt with facts.

Much current public health deals w/hiding the ill effects of illegal immigration in border areas. I believe polio is back... not that this is publicized much. Leprosy, too!


91 posted on 12/29/2018 2:30:21 PM PST by Josco
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To: Josco

I heard the incidence of leprosy was falling off.


92 posted on 12/29/2018 2:41:30 PM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: Kipp

“Like the Spanish flu, the H1N1 strain affects the young and healthy the most.”

That’s correct. H1N1 leverages their strong immune systems against them and kills them with a “cytokine storm”. Or it makes them highly vulnerable to pneumonia as the killer.

And actually H1N1 is the same variant as the 1918 Spanish flu.

The highest mortality rate among adults contracting H1N1 is the 25-26 yr old cohort. 80 per 10,000 as reported in a National Institute of Health study of the 1918 flu.

A shame about your husband’s young cousin.


93 posted on 12/29/2018 2:54:17 PM PST by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: Lazamataz

+1 to the CDC


94 posted on 12/29/2018 3:03:12 PM PST by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: a little elbow grease
Personally, I know near nothing about this science...

Neither do I. But I know several people who have gotten the flu shortly after getting a flu shot. Their experience is my main motivation for not getting a shot. That and just plain old man stubbornness :)

95 posted on 12/29/2018 3:39:17 PM PST by upchuck (Liberalism is a foul and nasty mental disease for which the suffers should seek professional help.)
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To: Mears
Oh,stop it.The FR conspiracy theories make us all look like fools.

Well we wouldn't want to consider all options now would we?

96 posted on 12/29/2018 4:27:35 PM PST by numberonepal (WWG1WGA)
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To: azkathy

Proof of the danger: Semi-secret, no-fault Vaccine Court.


97 posted on 12/29/2018 5:34:24 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: humblegunner

That’s funny

Late night chuckle...out loud

Woke up the old lady

Man she kicks hard to be so little

She’d kicked harder if bama had lost


98 posted on 12/29/2018 11:15:36 PM PST by wardaddy (I don’t care that you’re not a racist......when the shooting starts it won’t matter what yo)
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To: YogicCowboy; azkathy; a little elbow grease

Proof of the danger: Semi-secret, no-fault Vaccine Court.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Yes indeed, and people do win, millions. ====== of course they make them jump thru hoops for years to finally get what they have coming to them.

BTW IIRC recently RFKjr won a case forcing CDC to admit they had NOT followed the mandate they had been given from the beginning to do adequate testing. I read this recently on NaturalNews.com.


99 posted on 12/29/2018 11:31:40 PM PST by PraiseTheLord (.Q.)
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To: Widget Jr
I wrote earlier: "No one here or in the article attributed her symptoms and sudden death to a flu vaccine." --

That still remains true.

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You wrote: The article title:"Did Bre Payton Die From the Flu Vaccine?" Halfway in: "There are risks to getting the Flu Shot" ---

I say, "So what. If you read this thread you would see that she did NOT take a flu shot, she disdained them. ---

At one point the article reads,"It is unclear whether Payton received the flu vaccine though the only post that we can find about the subject was sarcastically critical of the industry:

"State urges more people to get vaccinated.///// NOOO ! vaccines are from the devil.” --- I believe this is from her Instagram.

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You wrote: The end: "If Payton did not get the vaccine, it’s possible that it could have saved her life. If she did get the vaccine–on the other hand–it’s possible that it actually contributed to her death. That is the paradox of a life-saving medical treatment with serious side effect" The authors wrote a click bait title and are trying to use her death to sell their "healthy living" products. There are four links on the page to buy what the site is selling. I'm not alone in finding that distasteful.----

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Here's hoping your New Years is less "distasteful". God knows .... you are very welcome to your distaste.

100 posted on 12/30/2018 3:40:33 AM PST by a little elbow grease (Duct tape and cable ties have more worth than pussy hats and resistance.)
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