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Social Security Won't Give You Security
The Coach's Team ^ | 1/10/18 | Chris Hogan

Posted on 01/10/2018 8:07:57 AM PST by Oldpuppymax

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To: SamAdams76
I've been averaging double digit returns over the past 30 years.

Wow, that's pretty incredible giving an 8% average annual return is what is assumed.

All three of my teenaged kids work part-time jobs. Two have access to 401k plans which are rockin' the house. If they keep this up over their 30-40 working lives they should be set. If only I had started a 401k when I was in my teens (sigh).

81 posted on 01/10/2018 11:09:02 AM PST by Obadiah
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To: Oldpuppymax

It’s not even advanced math. Anyone with Grade 5 math can figure out it is a pyramid scheme.

Anyone whom ever believed it was enough for retirement needs a shake.


82 posted on 01/10/2018 11:15:23 AM PST by Sam Gamgee
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To: Obadiah

If you want to see SSI bolstered up, simple.
Scrap all federal employee pension, place the entire amount into SSI, and then the federal government would definitely make sure it remained viable.


83 posted on 01/10/2018 12:21:48 PM PST by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: SamAdams76
When I say they went "bust" I mean they lost half their value.

After that, I did not want to risk my capital any longer and wanted to pretty much preserve what I had left. I should have pulled my money from the market in 2008 and put it in safe harbor somewhere. Coulda, woulda, shoulda, but didn't.

I don't worry about missing the run up on the stock market recently. Because there will be sell offs too where you will lose money. Better to not be too greedy when you don't have any income earning capacity left to replace the lost monies.

I saved my money after 2008 but didn't invest it. When I retired, I built a new house with the cash, paid off mortgages on two rentals and cleared the deck of any credit cards or misc. debt.

Now I have cash in the bank, no debt and a steady income. Am I wealthy? No, but it's calving season and life is good. :-)

84 posted on 01/10/2018 1:06:10 PM PST by HotHunt
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Samadams,

How much did that 69 year old make right before he retired?


85 posted on 01/10/2018 1:07:26 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Oldpuppymax

I think it will be there, but they will means-test the bejeesus out of it, so those able and willing to save all these decades will be punished.


86 posted on 01/10/2018 1:51:02 PM PST by GnuThere
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To: WildHighlander57

Around $60k


87 posted on 01/10/2018 2:48:52 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Keyhopper
If you want to see SSI bolstered up, simple. Scrap all federal employee pension, place the entire amount into SSI, and then the federal government would definitely make sure it remained viable.

But what will happen to the money the federal employees put into their pensions? There is no easy answer.

88 posted on 01/10/2018 6:07:17 PM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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You mean OUR money that WE pay them.
Just like SSI they can take our money without any recourse.
We’re not taking it, we’re putting it into SSI


89 posted on 01/10/2018 6:16:26 PM PST by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: SamAdams76; Obadiah; minnesota_bound; patriotspride

Regarding that guy in your post #63

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3621169/posts?page=63#63

IMHO he got taxed big time* (up to 85%***) on his soc sec because he made 60k/year.... he may have gotten his salary plus soc sec (maybe 2366x12** =28392 + 60k total 88392) gross pay, but paid a lot of taxes that ate up the soc sec and some of the salary....

That’s the kicker.

*See Obadiah’s post
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3621169/posts?page=78#78

** See minnesota_bound’s post
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3621169/posts?page=12#12

*** and patriotspride’s post
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3621169/posts?page=34#34


90 posted on 01/10/2018 7:39:27 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: WildHighlander57

If people are working they are paying into Social Security. Only the gov’t thinks it is a good idea to penalize that person.


91 posted on 01/10/2018 8:46:13 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: Oldpuppymax

They never seem to run out of money for welfare...


92 posted on 01/10/2018 9:43:23 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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