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Greenfield: We Didn't Beat ISIS, It's Here
Sultan Knish ^ | 11/1/17 | Greenfield

Posted on 11/02/2017 3:44:28 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell

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1 posted on 11/02/2017 3:44:29 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell
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2 posted on 11/02/2017 3:45:16 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Progressivism is 2 year olds in a poop fight.)
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Maybe Mayor DeBolshevik of NYC should read this?


3 posted on 11/02/2017 3:49:47 AM PDT by donozark (JAMES COMEY:Democrat Presidential nominee in 2020.)
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wouldnt do any good the boy has already announced allegiancetoISLAM


4 posted on 11/02/2017 3:55:26 AM PDT by StonyBurk
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To: Louis Foxwell

IS is here thanks to globalists and leftist


5 posted on 11/02/2017 4:13:37 AM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Isis is like a distributed, crowd-funded, open-soured, self-propagating software application. It will be almost impossible to defeat as it potentially has 1.5 billion platforms it can run on. For the most part none of the “radicalized” platforms can be detected amongst the noise created by the other non-radicalized platforms around them. Even if they are detected, the counter program almost always has to wait until the radicalized element has struck before it does anything. Then, instead of ending the threat by death, the counter program stores the threat in an environment where it can propagate itself to other, as yet, un-radicalized platforms.

The only solution is to forbid the potentially bad actor platforms (Muslims) to exist inside your control space or national borders.


6 posted on 11/02/2017 4:21:22 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: donozark
“Maybe Mayor DeBolshevik of NYC should read this?”

Yes, but it likely wouldn't make a difference because he doesn't demonstrate the willingness to inspect his own biases and be honest with himself. This is a condition in which many, if not most modern liberals are stuck.

There are fundamental premises that need to be considered. One of them is cultural relativism. Once one acknowledges that not all cultures are equal, and that some are destructive, it is much easier to discuss what is acceptable and what is not. The politically correct view, and the view generally taught in universities, is that all cultures are essentially ‘equal’, except American culture - which is assessed as traditionally insular, racist/bigoted, colonial, oppressive of the rest of the world, and less intellectual.

To hold and propagate this view is to ignore facts, and is in many ways a type of cult belief. Nonetheless, this is the view that you hear from the left recurrently. I remember Hillary being asked whether she ‘loved’ America. She answered, ‘I love the America that can be’. That is the viewpoint of many on the left, and it is too often expanded to included rejection or derision of all traditional American cultural norms. These include rejection or derision of Christianity, marriage, defined gender, achievement based on effort (”you didn't build that”), etc. etc.

History has shown us that not all cultures are equal, and implores us to take the best and leave the worst as we move forward. Cannibalism, head-hunting, human sacrifice, fights to the death in the Roman colosseum, cock-fighting, slavery, torture, are all ‘cultural’ attributes that we've rejected as barbaric and wrong. Even liberals would agree on this (mostly - although some might argue that we have no right to judge cannibals and head-hunters). Once we accept that not all human cultures and activities are equal, then we can legitimately discuss what types of human behavior are destructive and should not be tolerated going forward.

Or, we can be like de Blasio.

7 posted on 11/02/2017 4:28:52 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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There can be no ISIS without islam.


8 posted on 11/02/2017 4:33:13 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: Louis Foxwell
As long as we go on seeing Islamic terrorism as an aberration that has no connection to the history and religion of Islam, our efforts to defeat it will be pinpricks that treat the symptoms, but not the problem. This is the battleground - fighting the 'ideas' of Islam. Where does the reformation start?
9 posted on 11/02/2017 4:48:27 AM PDT by GOPJ ( http://fakehatecrimes.org/ - List of fake hate crimes against traditional/conservative Americans)
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To: Louis Foxwell

I like the Uber analogy.


10 posted on 11/02/2017 5:05:40 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Louis Foxwell

Thank-you for your posting!


11 posted on 11/02/2017 5:07:56 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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Second it.


12 posted on 11/02/2017 5:08:40 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Louis Foxwell

The only way to control this disease is test and slaughter, isolate and remove the infected. Neither way is being done and we will have this problem for eternity. Unless we are willing to accept this danger to the United States, we will be dealing with this in many ways. Treat it or ignore it.


13 posted on 11/02/2017 5:26:58 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Louis Foxwell; donozark; knighthawk; Gen.Blather; neverevergiveup; Maverick68; Biggirl; ...
Everyone in America needs to read this piece. I have beenssaying this, all of it, since 9-11 but I am not nearly so eloquent as Mr. Greenfield.
Emmett puts together the necessary background.

Mohammed & Charlemagne: Epilogue

Mohammed and Charlemagne: The Book

14 posted on 11/02/2017 6:02:44 AM PDT by arthurus
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Thank-you for the info!


15 posted on 11/02/2017 6:54:49 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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Thanks for “The Book” link.


16 posted on 11/02/2017 6:57:15 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: neverevergiveup

liberalism/progressivism/socialism/communism/Islam are all cult experiences. They require absolute, unquestioning loyalty to survive. They are each absolutely dependent upon the ignorance of their adherents and their willingness to be sacrificed morally and intellectually for the good of their cause.


17 posted on 11/02/2017 6:58:29 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Progressivism is 2 year olds in a poop fight.)
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The original Islamic conquests wrecked the societies and cultures they overran the way that barbarians always do. They wouldn’t have succeeded if civilization had not been in a state of collapse.

It occurs to me that barbarians are the part of the evolutionary cycle. Just like disease, democrats, anarchists, cancer, Isis, predators. It's a mutation that happens to challenge an existing civilization. If civilization is fit, it will become stronger for the challenge. If civilization is weak, old, sick, the challenge will destroy it to make room for something healthier. The mutant will survive only long enough to destroy the unfit organism.

18 posted on 11/02/2017 7:35:59 AM PDT by oldbrowser (There is a striking similarity between Islamist, BLM, Antifa, Nazis, anarchists, and the democrats.)
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To: vetvetdoug

“The only way to control this disease is test and slaughter, isolate and remove the infected. Neither way is being done and we will have this problem for eternity. Unless we are willing to accept this danger to the United States, we will be dealing with this in many ways. Treat it or ignore it”.

You’re right.

We will never win this war if we stay on the defense at home and abroad. No war has ever been won by staying on defense.


19 posted on 11/02/2017 7:41:19 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Destroy islam


20 posted on 11/02/2017 7:44:38 AM PDT by onedoug
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