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Politics is a Team Sport: Rand Paul’s Destiny
Black and Center Blog ^ | September 22, 2017 | L M Walker

Posted on 09/22/2017 8:13:53 AM PDT by NaturalBornConservative

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To: Fantasywriter

Obamacare will remain the law of the land even if they pass this turd.


21 posted on 09/22/2017 8:44:19 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: editor-surveyor

Cubans born in Canada are not natural born citizens, sorry.


22 posted on 09/22/2017 8:46:02 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"Gramnesty’s bill rearranges the Obamacare deck chairs. If it get’s passed they’ll say they repealed and replaced and we’ll be stuck with it forever."

I agree completely. If they pass this, why would they ever revisit it? Would they repeal their own bill? Also, now when Medicaid fails, they can blame the republicans...

23 posted on 09/22/2017 8:48:14 AM PDT by NaturalScience
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To: BeadCounter

So these allegedly pro-life R jerseys wearing Democrats have defunded Planned Parenthood?

I left the GOP when it became apparent that they were only concerned with keeping the Cheap Labor Express running.

That’s the only thing that matters to them.


24 posted on 09/22/2017 8:49:26 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Which of the two versions has mandatory fines?


25 posted on 09/22/2017 9:05:57 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Wrong. If the bill isn’t passed we’ll be stuck with Obamacare forever.


26 posted on 09/22/2017 9:06:23 AM PDT by NaturalBornConservative ("Something that everyone knows isn't worth knowing" ~ Bernard Baruch)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

So, what you’re saying is they should not pass anything and just let Obamacare remain in it’s entirety. Which 8-10 Democratic Senators are going to vote for your imagined “wipe-the-slate” full repeal?


27 posted on 09/22/2017 9:10:04 AM PDT by NaturalBornConservative ("Something that everyone knows isn't worth knowing" ~ Bernard Baruch)
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To: NaturalBornConservative

No Rand Paul simply stands for what the other republicans should be standing for. He’s right. How does this bill repeal Obamacare? It doesn’t.


28 posted on 09/22/2017 9:15:04 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: editor-surveyor
"He is an established medical professional, and knows what he is talking about."

LOL. Apparently he doesn't know much about getting things done in DC. Left up to him Obamacare will remain the law of the land forever and ever.

29 posted on 09/22/2017 9:15:52 AM PDT by NaturalBornConservative ("Something that everyone knows isn't worth knowing" ~ Bernard Baruch)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Under the Graham-Cassidy plan a Federal block grant is given annually to states to help individuals pay for health care, Planned Parenthood is defunded, and the individual mandate, employer mandate, and medical device tax are completely repealed, to name a few.


30 posted on 09/22/2017 9:17:25 AM PDT by NaturalBornConservative ("Something that everyone knows isn't worth knowing" ~ Bernard Baruch)
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To: NaturalBornConservative

You’re right on every point. I’ve lost all respect for Paul. Now, if he were to announce that he’ll both oppose the repeal of Obamacare AND sign himself and his family up for an Obamacare plan, that would change.

But he won’t. He’ll do his best to stick ordinary Americans with O-care forever, while he and his family remain exempt.

Phony.


31 posted on 09/22/2017 9:22:12 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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32 posted on 09/22/2017 9:25:56 AM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: NaturalBornConservative

The money we can’t afford is still there. Obamacare is unaffordable.


33 posted on 09/22/2017 9:29:44 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Timmy

Corker, Hatch, Heller and Flake must go in 2018.


34 posted on 09/22/2017 10:09:12 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Fantasywriter

All of the structure and agencies invented by Obamacare remains.
The federal government is still collecting everyone’s medical records.


35 posted on 09/22/2017 10:11:18 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: NaturalBornConservative

Obamacare will remain.
Not one part of the structure of Obamacare will be repealed.


36 posted on 09/22/2017 10:13:06 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: circlecity
If Rand is the one that ends up killing this then he needn’t ever run for President again.

I'd vote for Rand Paul in a heartbeat. All too often, he comes across as the only man in Washington DC who ever bothered to actually read the Constitution.

37 posted on 09/22/2017 10:13:57 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Lurkinanloomin

If Graham-Cassidy were identical in every word, it would still be better to vote for it. If Graham-Cassidy is approved, it can be repealed. If Obamacare is allowed to remain the law of the land beyond September 30th, it cannot in any practucal/realistic way ever be repealed.


38 posted on 09/22/2017 10:22:04 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

That is a fantasy, writer.
The current bill does not repeal anything.
It changes some aspects of Obamacare.
Obamacare remains the law of the land either way.

They are repairing Obamacare, not repealing, not replacing.


39 posted on 09/22/2017 10:26:46 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Fantasywriter

Rand Paul is anything but phony. He’s right - There’s no repeal in this bill.

Also, this crap about “this is the last chance...” utter nonsense.

I’m actually kind of ambivalent about the bill: even though it’s a turkey, passing it will be scored as a Trump victory to rub in the faces of Dems. I always enjoy that. If it doesn’t pass that’s fine too - it’s nothing but an Obamacare ripoff signed by Republicans.

Either way, the Republicans who don’t support it should be judged according to their reasons. If it’s McCain - screw him, he just wants to make Trump look bad. If it’s McClowsky, screw her - she loves Obamacare the way it is. If it’s Paul, good for him - he wants a real repeal because he’s a constitutional conservative.


40 posted on 09/22/2017 10:36:13 AM PDT by enumerated
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