Russia Hacked our Election! (So what?)

Scott Adams' Blog ^ | June 13, 2017 | Scott Adams

[realcleanguy]

So the Democrat position today is: “Putin hacked our elections while Obama and the Democrats sat back in agreement. “

[ctdonath2]

The “hacking” charge remains unduly vague. At worst they lifted some emails from a couple servers which were remarkably - and deliberately - insecure. Anyone so inclined could have breached that security, and most could leave tracks pointing at Russia.

What’s remarkable is how those accusing Russia utterly fail to accuse Herself et al of making it so easy & tempting to do so.

[Slyfox]

WHY?

BECAUSE:

[Huebolt]

If the Russians harbor enmity to the US, the way to damage us the MOST would have been to have (gag) Hillary Clinton elected. The US would be DOOMED!

[BlueDragon]

Was the Hildabeast quote really in an email to Donna Brazile? One that has been verified authenticated?

If so -- where? I WANT IT. So I can cite it (until that bitch is behind bars, where she belongs).

[Nifster]

In Georgia the only hacking that was confirmed was multiple attempts by DHS.

[Cboldt]

Trump is the target of internal coup because he won. If he had lost, none of this would be news. All the predicates would still be there, the "active measures", the "collusion," and everything else. But in the US, none of that would make a dent in the press if Hillary had won the election.

Therefore, all of this hype is designed to deligitimize the results of the election. It has no other purpose. Congress is working overtime to deligitimize the election, all the while proclaiming that no votes were changed. It is utter nonsense.

[Dalberg-Acton]

“In Georgia the only hacking that was confirmed was multiple attempts by DHS.”

Several other States also reported hacking attempts by Obama’s DHS. Now I’m hearing commentators (including Romney chick Dana Perino) saying DHS needs to take over control of the elections.

Odd that Perino would be for it, as she has said (when subbing for Megyn Kelley) that there is no election fraud. I expect to see a push for a Federal takeover of the election system.

[Slyfox]

I don't remember if it was first in an email or not. I heard that it was quoted by some media types that were back stage at the event where Hillary and Trump did their townhall presentations and heard Hillary yell at Brazille. They were pretty shocked when they witnessed it. And these were her own media friends.

This might help

[digger48]

Bkmk

[vooch]

true

of course the Russians tried to influence our election, so did the Germans, French, Chinese, Mexicans, Swiss, Canadians, Japanese, Thais, Hindus, Jews, Arabs, Turks, Nigerians, Cubans, Jamaicans, and even the Upper Voltans

Doh

[Ancesthntr]

Here’s the bigger question:

Why would Russia have WANTED Trump to win?

I simply cannot believe that they did - and here’s why:

1) Russia’s economy (just like in the 1980s) is highly dependent upon oil and natural gas exports (they get about 2/3 of their foreign currency earnings from this source);

2) Russia’s economy (just like in the 1980s) is not in great shape and would be heavily burdened by having to divert enormous resources to countering a large US military build-up.

3) Trump campaigned on massively increasing energy production via regulatory and tax cuts, whereas Hillary Clinton wanted to keep following the Obama policy of closing down coal mines and keeping a lid on leases of federally-controlled land thought to be oil-bearing;

4) Trump campaigned on a large increase in US military strength, whereas Hillary Clinton said pretty much nothing about the subject.

5) Putin is not only not stupid, he is an intelligent, highly-informed nationalist. He observed what this country was able to do to the Soviet economy (collapse it to the point of forcing a change in government), and he is STILL bitter about that. Why on Earth would he want to subject Russia to the same treatment now? A rational actor (and Putin is the very definition of rational) would not only NOT support Trump, he’d rush to support Trump’s weak opponent.

I think that these facts are no secret, and that most people who put even a little bit of thought into this will reach the same conclusion.

[Nifster]

And we uns will say no

[Dante3]

Good points.

[Yaelle]

Here’s all I got re Russian hacking, from actual hackers. (Not the ones involved) Are you sitting down? This will be tough to come to grips with.

Russian individuals in huge rooms filled with computers were paid to be online on social media to support Trump.

No. Wow. I don’t know how we survive.

In other words, business as usual and NFBD.

[Yaelle]

Well now. That is a campaign “promise” Trump hasn’t gotten to yet.

[Slyfox]

Dang-it-all. Someone needs to place it on his plate.

[Reily]

I can use your listed reasons and say Russia would prefer Trump. (Note: I am not saying they interfered in the election!) But it all comes down to stability & competence.
The Russians need a stable world both for their commodities and for their piece of mind. Remember they are not exporting communist ideology anymore. These are Nationalists not communists. Culturally they are returning to the outlook of old Russia. Order & stability is their preference. The Zero-Hillary 8 years were anything but order & stability. I think they viewed Hillary as a dangerously incompetent, delusional loose cannon.
Also note don’t interpret anything I have typed as mindlessly pro-Putin. He does not share our values (but closer to them then Saudi Arabia!), he is a Russian nationalist and must be viewed in those terms. He is a modern equivalent of one of the Czars. Remember not all Czars were as weak as Nicholas II.

[BlueDragon]

I don't remember if it was first in an email or not.

In the posted image, it said the statement was in an email.

I heard that it was quoted by some media types that were back stage at the event where Hillary and Trump did their townhall presentations and heard Hillary yell at Brazille.

Yes, I heard the same thing, as did many of us here. When did it first break on FR? was it -- the very next morning after the election? Something like that.

So it wasn't in an email. If it was said at all. It could have, for she did reportedly go through a melt-down.