Posted on 05/24/2017 10:36:00 PM PDT by pboyington
the atrocity in Manchester was blowback from Hillarys destruction of Libyia
Exactly, a very astute observation I may add.
Trump is going all out against ISIS. But that won’t help the UK at home. In fact, the UK will probably protest against Trump. Oh wait, they already have.
The UK, France, Germany, Sweden, and most of the rest of Western Europe are already dead. They just does not know it yet.
UK hits out at US over leaks in Manchester attack probe
British security officials consider holding back sensitive information from America
“...and while victims remain in hospital having nuts and bolts removed from their bodies.”
Whenever these attacks happen I always think of those that survived, but will have to live on with loss of limbs, sight, etc. Of course it is better than death - but there were 150+ wounded.
Not to play politics with the innocent wounded - but I wonder if all the people that have been injured, or had family killed and wounded - if they got together to meet with their elected officials if that would do something.
Of course that is assuming that they would all be of the same mind with how to solve the problem. I’m sure some of the wounded still thing that the terrorists will just stop if the government gives them jobs, houses, etc.
ISIS is Islam as practiced by Mohammed.
That is the true nature of Islam.
There will be no success until people acknowledge and accept that.
"...They just do not know it yet..."
Was just reading about this today: https://medium.com/incerto/the-skin-of-others-in-your-game-3f51d8ccc3fb. Need to give the terrorists something to lose that they care about.
“UK hits out at US over leaks in Manchester attack probe
British security officials consider holding back sensitive information from America”
Were the UK authorities intending to conceal the name?
This enemy does not value the lives of his wife and daughters. He only values his life and the lives of his sons and brothers and fathers and uncles, etc. We should keep that in mind as we contemplate how best to terrorize the terrorists. IMHO.
by 2banana | December 29, 2015 - 10:27am
Islam is “religion” based on cruelty to the unbeliever. Unbelievers can be other Muslims from other sects of Islam or non-Muslims. Muhammad was a child rapist, slave trader, slave master, sex slave trafficker, kidnapper, genocidal mass murderer, blissful torturer, thief and liar. This and more is well documented in the Koran and Hadith.
The Muslims joining ISIS are just Muslims wanting to be “Good Muslims.” They want to follow the way of their prophet. In the exact way Muhammad lived and ruled. No amount of sugar coating or mumbling about “moderate” Muslims will change that. “Radicalized” Muslims are simply Muslims who want to be “Good Muslims” in their host country according to the very same Koran and Hadith.
“The majority of Arab Sunnis have rationalized their religion with modern life and sensibilities regarding law and order. I believe they would be more trusting and cooperating allies if outside powers re-framed the combined operations against BG the way I have.”
Arab Sunnis like Saudi Arabia? Where Bibles and Churches are banned and illegal? Which has an apartheid system for non-Muslims which includes the death penalty for any non-Muslims entering Mecca or Medina? Even the “moderate” Sunni Turkey government practices this apartheid system. The Turkish government just recently approved the building of a new Christian Church, the first approval since 1923. This is the “modern life and sensibilities regarding law and order” we want to bring to Syria or the world?
Let’s look at reality if the US Military had the mission that was truly to “Defeat and Destroy ISIS in Syria.”
1. Stop arming and training the “moderate” Syrian rebels. They are just barely one degree removed from ISIS and have/will install a brutal apartheid ISIS type of Islamic Governmental System just as bad as ISIS if they were ever to achieve victory.
2. Ally, support, train and share intel with those who are bringing the fight to ISIS. This includes the Assad Regime, the Russians, the Kurds, the Christians, the Yazidis and certain Sunni Tribes. This does not include Turkey or Saudi Arabia.
3. Bomb and mine all border crossings. Nothing gets in or out of the “Caliphate.” Destroy all power facilities. Any covered truck in the highway that the cargo cannot be verified. All refineries. All factories or production sites that are paying a tax to ISIS. Anyone posting ISIS propaganda online. Any communication site. Anything or anyone that gives any kind of support to the ISIS Regime. Without warning. Without regard to civilian causalities. After the first few days, the civilians will get the message and get away from ISIS targets as ISIS now uses our own ROE and bombing approval process against us.
4. The Geneva and Hague Conventions are suspended in Syria. America does not need to be abide to these Conventions when our enemy does not. ROE is to be “close with the enemy by fire and maneuver and destroy them and their will to fight.” Summary executions for any ISIS terrorist caught without a uniform (this was the norm in all America’s Wars pre-1946). The use of Napalm, Cluster Munitions, anti-personnel mines and flamethrowers are now authorized.
In short – Terrorize the Terrorists. Total war for anyone or anything that supports them. Ally with anyone fighting them.
Total War is not pretty. It is not PC. It is brutal and barbarous. But is will accomplish the mission in the shortest time period with least amount of American casualties. And it will result in Victory.
Or we can spend another 15 years and another $2 Trillion from our Treasury in the Middle East to get nothing accomplished except writing more “white papers” on how to win.
The other false premise Europe indicates as a long term solution to terrorism as pushed by Liberals is to boost security.
As Jews were being blown up all over Israel,several times each week the polite Europeans told the Israelis that they needed to understand the “grievances” of the :”frustrated” Paleostinians. The Israelis needed simply to “compromise” and then it would all magically cease.
So, Britain, Europe and the West? Be more tolerant and multicultural and let's see how far YOU get.
This reminds me of the 1953 movie War of the Worlds. A minister runs out into no man’s land and says to the invaders “We want to be your friends” etc. They zotted him.
>>Summary executions for any ISIS terrorist caught without a uniform (this was the norm in all America’s Wars pre-1946)
As a side comment, that we never properly dealt with illegal combatants in Afghanistan and Iraq was another major Bush failure.
Yep. It would help if the msm went after mohammedism like they go after Conservatives except that they tell the truth about “Mad Mo”.
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