Posted on 04/29/2017 11:12:05 AM PDT by GraceG
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No, there has been only one, about 4500 years ago, and imaginary “evidence” doesn’t count.
Worshiping scam “science” is a true mental illness.
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Nobody knows for certain, but the best guess is that the modern climate in Greenland is about the same as in the Medieval Warm Period give or take one degree Celsius, and in between it was colder by several degrees.
What the first Norse settlers encountered therefore is about what you would find now. There are parts of the west coast of Greenland that are not glaciated and where the large ice sheet does not reach the sea or at least only reaches it near the heads of various fjords. Those ice-free areas support a little grazing of sheep and cattle and are “green” rather than white at least when snow is not covering the ground, which is from about late April to mid-October in an average year.
Personally, I think that we are probably closer to the last glacial period than the next one; the Milankovitch drivers do not really go “glacial” for ten or twenty thousand years and then not very rapidly either. We may actually benefit from small human modifications of climate in that distant future but for the next 10,000 years I would strongly doubt that we will face any sort of glacial advances.
We are probably close to an equilibrium point as the more marginal glaciers and ice sheets have already shrunk (for example, the Barnes Ice Cap on Baffin Island) to about their likely minimum extents.
Technically we are still in an ice age, the only times that the earth is not in an ice age would be when there is no permanent ice anywhere and that has not been the case since before the four glacial periods that have come and gone (at least their peak extents) in the past 2 million years.
Ice ages are thought to be the case about ten per cent of the time in geological history. Large stretches of time have come and gone with no ice other than seasonal polar snowfalls and probably a bit of high latitude freezing of oceans. When there’s no land near the poles it is difficult to sustain a continental glaciation.
If you want to see actual data for the Canadian arctic over the past century, google my article published on Net-weather (under a real world name, Roger Smith), entitled Study of Recent Climate Change at Cambridge Bay and Resolute. You’ll find it interesting because it shows that some variable are changing at a different pace than others, and these two locations, which are only as far apart as Boston and DC, have quite a different trend recently.
I am neither a big proponent or a huge skeptic on the AGW theory, more of a Buddhist (it is what it is), as the subject is perhaps a bit more complex than many media and internet accounts would have us believe. That is partly the fault of the IPCC and partly the fault of political activists using cherry picked data to support wildly inaccurate theses.
They can try... but they will fail to convince regular folks that we are currently in an ice age.
Regardless of the terms ... we may be due to slip out of the interglacial period we have been in. Things will become much colder at some point.
The last glaciation was about 20,000 yrs ago. Due for the next one right about...now.
Milankovich(sp) Cycles.
Indeed, Ice ages are more harsh for life than an ice free period. When dinos were around the earth had no ice caps and substantially higher CO2 levels and those temps plus co2 levels supported so many plants that YUGE dinosaurs could live without fear of starving!
http://www.philipstallings.com/2015/06/the-biblical-flat-earth-teaching-from.html
This guy has a lot of great ideas for you to ponder.
Vikings colonized two sites on Greenland during the Medieval Warm Period.
“The glaciers recede into Canada due to the warming pattern and lack of rain at the end of the interglacial period.”
Glaciers are what made Ohio so FLAT. Scoured it out to nothing. They also created the huge ‘badlands’ of infinite, deep, runoff channels that have stranded and killed more than one explorer.
Just wait for the next ICE AGE.
It will be blamed on global warming by the kool-aide drinkers. They are totally drug-induced psychopaths.
Nuclear power will be a matter of survival.
Look at all that glacial ice on Greenland. In any warming period, the water runoff will keep the surrounding land well irrigated. Hell yes, it would be VERY green.
Last century, there were articles in magazines declaring
that an ICE AGE was on the way; and that New York City
would be frozen solid by the late 1900’s.
Agree with you on almost all counts. Yeah the AGW types actually think warming can cause an Ice Age. That is how brainwashed and mind numb they have become. And they will only get worse as time goes on. Have already written them off myself. Dead apes walking. Nuclear power however comes hand in hand with nuclear bombs and nuclear contamination. We would have been better off without it. All part of the we are gods mindset. We are not gods. We have no clue as to what we are doing. Sure dont know the answers or the best way forward from here, but I do know the whole story is resetting.
Asia and North America have been moving closer over the last hundred million years. The Bering Strait constrains ocean currents between the Pacific and the North Pole. If there was better ocean circulation between the tropics and the North Pole, ice would not form as easily.
Very plausible. About 2.5 million years ago the recent ice age cycles began. Will have to see how that corellates with continental drift. As a side note - Imagine how intense the El Nino was when there was just one continent and one big ocean. Assuming we had El Nino cycles back then. Fairly certain that solar activity has the potential to kick off the theoritical Semi Permanent El Nino. Less: UV; magnetic activity; and solar wind translates to weak trade winds. Solar energy drives the whole system. Weak trade winds means solar energy bleeds off the equatorial Pacific instead of being moved west and then toward the poles.
Alright, looked around for plate movements from the perspective of the Pacific. Could not find any. They all showed the super continent breaking apart from the view of Africa. No view or timeline for russia and alaska moving closer. At any rate, one could assume that as Pacific flow up to the arctic has been restricted, the atlantic flow has increased ?
I think the controversies arise due to an earth-centric view of climate. We have an elliptical orbit around the sun, and so there will be times when we are closer to it, and other times when we are farther away. Also, the sun changes. None of this happens in a static environment. Deal with it! There will always be climate change and we have to adjust to whatever we have to survive.
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There is no “Biblical flat earth.”
There are many fools that would love to live by such lies though.
The Biblical description is the only scientifically tenable model that exists.
Old Earth dreams are psychological opium trips.
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The fluctuations in our climate have absolutely nothing to do with the shape of our orbit.
They are the result of events that were set in motion by man’s sin, and will terminate when Yeshua physically returns to Earth to “restore all things.”
“Naturalistic” attempts at explaining them all fall flat on their face due to ignoring obvious realities, in favor of humanist naturalism.
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Eggsactly.
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