Posted on 10/26/2016 5:43:23 AM PDT by marktwain
I remain impressed with Mr.GG2 nonetheless.
;>)
A 300gr hard cast over a max load of H-110 will get any bears attention as well.
Something as small as a 240gr takes bear just fine.
The 300 lb boar I shot with 240 gr loads would second that. The 300 gr hard cast kicks it up a notch. It is an industrial strength drill.
HI MileHi! Long time, haven’t crossed your path recently.
Wow! You got a bear in Colorado?
Bear ate 'em, then buried the pistol, so, no evidence.
Lots of black bears. They ruined the hunting though. Cali eviroweenies got an amendment passed to outlaw bait and dogs. Now bears invade mountain towns every spring and fall.
I shot that bear from a tree stand with an 8” .44 mag. Boy did that light him up! That was my “standard” load, 240 gr softpoint over a max load of 24 gr of H-110. Very powerful and accurate out of any wheel gun I’ve tried it in.
Hope yer good Toad!
We live in he Perry Park area and have bears sleeping on the porch! Love the little guys. Haven’t seen any bears this year, but most years they are seen nearly daily.
There you go! I’d rather not have them as regular visitors though. I’m in South Park and an elk hunter was attacked a couple days ago just over by Red Hill pass. Guess he fought it off with minor injuries, so now the wardens will find it and kill it.
We had a sow with 2 cubs hanging out around here this spring. Another large bear was around my neighbors place, but I never saw him. Made the neighbors horses nervous for a few days.
Always, always, always: guns will be “shown” in these “studies” to “not be effective.” It’s political and cultural, not factual.
Har, why spice yerself up for those big bitey bastards?
That’s one of my old recipes...and it’ll light anything you point it at up!
Oddly, that load showed pressure signs in a friends Super Blackhawk. Not in any other I ever tried.
Gotta head those loading book warnings about working up carefully to max loads.
head = heed
I always backed off the high pressure loads when the primers flattened.
Not entirely clear to me what a failure is, a hardware failure or failure of the individual to fire, or a failure to deter an attack. I doubt any of these statistics exist. Personally I carry spray and a handgun and haven't faced the necessity of choosing.
Might be worth a mention of the "bluff" charge since along with legal ramifications it's relevant.
Statistics supposedly exist and I believe are quoted by the NPS that 80% to 90% of charges are "bluff charges" which stop about 20 yards from the victim. Thus the advocacy of spray rather than deadly force. Many biologists reject that notion, not the 80% to 90% figure, rather the "bluff" adjective. They contend the bear stopped based on the actions of the target, which appeared formidable enough to give the bear pause. It also means that if you shoot a charging bear much beyond that 20 yard "bluff" zone, you'll probably face inquiry from various legal authorities. And a charging bear at 30 to 40 mph is moving at 7 to 9.5 yards per second, so time is quite limited. I've noted many comments on the thread about magazine capacity which, imo, is probably irrelevant in a true life threatening situation, ie one in which the pain of a shot to the body doesn't cause a retreat. And you've got the consideration of shot placement. You need a nervious system shot, likely one or two chances. At a head moving horizontally between two shoulders. A killing body shot, or several, still leaves you 30-45 seconds of necessary survival time. Not a pleasant situation.
Related threads
MT: Bear Spray Failure or Bear Spray Success?
Debunking the "8% forgot to take off the safety" in Bear Attacks Myth
Not good having them comfortable hanging out in neighborhoods.
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