Posted on 04/11/2016 9:15:53 PM PDT by jdirt
Plus 1
Ted Cruz’s mom apparently had a fast-track path to get Canadian citizenship due to being a prior British Subject. This would comport with her being on the Canadian voter registration rolls prior to her being in Canada 5 years. Read this report how Ted Cruz’s mom became a Canadian citizen after only ONE year in Canada due to being a British Subject from prior marriage (once a Brit always a Brit) instead of the 5 year residency required of most people moving to Canada per Give Us Liberty: TED CRUZ IS NOT NOR HAS HE EVER BEEN AN AMERICAN CITIZEN...
http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2016/04/ted-cruz-is-not-nor-has-he-ever-been.html
The Complete History of Ted Cruz’s Questionable Citizenship per Malia Litman’s Blog: https://malialitman.com/2016/03/27/the-complete-history-of-ted-cruzs-questionable-citizenship/
Do you have any evidence she was a British subject? Or is that just more assumption? And if you have proof, why hasn't that been published?
This would comport with her being on the Canadian voter registration rolls prior to her being in Canada 5 years.
Evidence please? The only documentation I have seen was a list of residents given to the enumerators of potential voters - it was not a list of registered voters. And that list was from 1974.
The post you link to is full of suppositions, but as usual, has no actual proof.
Question: Did Ted Cruz’s father also go to Canada to flee the possibility of being drafted into the U.S. Army during the Vietnam War which was raging during the late 60s. Many draft dodgers fled to Canada back then. Has anyone every investigated and reported on that possibility has a further motivator for Ted’s dad moving to Canada.
Actually no, the burden of proof rests with those who are trying to prove he is not a natural born citizen.
Like everything the birthers and the truthers put out, everything you listed is based on wild assumptions and spurious accusations, and then you demand people to prove you wrong. Sorry, that is not the way it works. If you believe that Ted's mom was not a US citizen at the time Ted was born, prove it with documentary evidence. Obviously, the US government disagrees with you, since Ted has a US passport, and those are only given to US citizens. Since Ted never had to be naturalized, the US government must have considered him to be a citizen from birth. If you disagree, provide evidence to prove your position.
Bear in mind that the law is consistent that a natural born citizen is one who is born of citizen parents (plural). This includes overseas births.
Cruz’ father was an Irish immigrant who obtained Canadian citizenship at the same time as Cruz’ mother, and then came to the U.S. on a Green Card.
Obama’s father was a polygamist (Muslim) on a student visa who never even applied for U.S. citizenship.
It should be an interesting ruling today ...
Question: Did Ted Cruz’s father also go to Canada to flee the possibility of being drafted into the U.S. Army during the Vietnam War which was raging during the late 60s. Many draft dodgers fled to Canada back then.
Very good point!
If Ted’s dad was fleeing the draft, a Canadian or British wife would be very helpful to a plan to flee the draft.
The date of Ted’s dad return to the US is very interesting.
The Vietnam war peace accord was signed January 1973
Congress voted to eliminate ALL war support to South Vietnam.
Then, in 1974, Ted Cruz Sr. moved back to the US after all probability of fighting in Vietnam was removed.
Actually, the burden of proof rests with Ted!
His mom was born in Delaware. Then, she leaves and marries a Brit in Britain. Then, she marries a Cuban and lives in Canada.Brits always had special status within Canada.
BTW, Ted Sr. left the US during the Vietnam war. Ted Sr. returned to the US after all risk of fighting in Vietnam was removed.
Ted proclaims his mom was born in the US, then quickly skips past her life in Britain and Canada.
Ted’s spends thousands of dollars sending Lawyers to court to keep his past a secret.
Ted could spend $100 and release his records!!!
Ted makes poor decisions and is wasteful with money
“Actually no, the burden of proof rests with those who are trying to prove he is not a natural born citizen.”
That’s nonsense. The legal burden of proof to have access to the ballot as a candidate is upon the candidate to demonstrate eligibility. The political burden of proof among the voters is whatever the voters choose to deem relevant in addition to any legal requirements that may or may not be in dispute. Women voted for John F. Kennedy based upon his looks and against Richard Nixon based on his looks. Ted Cruz and his political supporters must satisfy the rest of the electorate that he is in fact legally, morally, and politically acceptable as a candidate. Accordingly, the voters have the duty and obligation to act upon their judgment on a preponderance of the evidence or even less, and not the proof beyond a reasonable doubt required from a jury in a criminal case.
“Like everything the birthers and the truthers put out, everything you listed is based on wild assumptions and spurious accusations, and then you demand people to prove you wrong.”
Any person who resorts to the “birther” and “truther” demagoguery in the forum deserves to be dropped off the long end of a short pier in the figurative sense. Such misbehavior does nothing to add to the debate in any positive sense whatsoever and is designed to intimidate the participants in the debate.
“Sorry, that is not the way it works. If you believe that Ted’s mom was not a US citizen at the time Ted was born, prove it with documentary evidence.”
Ted Cruz has ordered such evidence not to be released to the public. If Ted Cruz wants the privilege of participating on the ballot and soliciting voter support on the ballot, it is up to Ted Cruz to supply all relevant documentation required to support his claim of eligibility for placement on the ballot.
“Obviously, the US government disagrees with you, since Ted has a US passport, and those are only given to US citizens.”
Thousands upon thousands of U.S. passports have been issued to illegal aliens who used identity fraud to obtain the U.S. passport by fraudulent means. Any U.S. passport obtained by fraudulent means may be revoked.
“Since Ted never had to be naturalized, the US government must have considered him to be a citizen from birth. If you disagree, provide evidence to prove your position.”
U.S. Supreme Court case: United State v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 18 S.Ct. 456, 42 L.Ed. “A person born out of the jurisdiction of the United States can only become a citizen by being naturalized....”
I still cannot believe Obama got in with a father who was Kenyan. Heck I believe a Kenyan at that time was a British Royal Subject.....literally what the framers meant to prevent.
Buckwheat’s election is a result of, “Voter Nullification”. A term that stems from, of all places, the OJ Simpson trial..where the term “Jury Nullification” was coined, to ‘splain his acquittal..very simple actually.
Cruz demonstrated his eligibility to the satisfaction of the state officials before they placed him on the ballot. The plaintiffs are now challenging that decision. I don't know where you are from, but here in the good old USA, it is the plaintiffs that have the burden of proof - not the defendants.
“Cruz demonstrated his eligibility to the satisfaction of the state officials before they placed him on the ballot.”
As the Administrative Judge in this New Jersey hearing said before in the prior Obama eligibility hearing, he decided Disney’s Mickey Mouse satisfied the virtually non-existent New Jersey standard. So, saying such official or perhaps corrupt state official satisfaction represents proof of anything other than official corruption proves nothing.
“The plaintiffs are now challenging that decision.”
In the United States the burden of production passes back and forth between the parties in the case as each satisfies its own burden of production. The plaintiffs in this administrative hearing have already satisfied their initial burden of production, which is why the hearing was scheduled in the first place. The burden of production then passed to Ted Cruz and his legal representatives to satisfy the trier of fact Ted Cruz meets the requirements to appear on the New Jersey ballots. Because State and Federal law requires Ted Cruz to be a natural born citizen, the burden of production of his natural born citizen status is now his obligation.
“I don’t know where you are from, but here in the good old USA, it is the plaintiffs that have the burden of proof - not the defendants.”
All of which demonstrates you have no idea whatsoever of what you are talking about, since you obviously do not understand how the burden of production of the evidence shifts between parties in non-criminal court cases. Your veiled attempt to falsely imply I am not a U.S. citizen is a lame excuse for belittlement. My ancestors created the United States, so you are barking up the wrong tree.
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