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Everyone Fears Ted Cruz
Right Wing News ^ | 01 Jan, 2016 | Brent Smith

Posted on 01/01/2016 7:42:09 AM PST by Isara

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To: FreeReign

Where you get the idea I’m in Mississippi is a mystery to me. I’ve never set foot in the state.

Here is the problem. Saying you are anti Capital Cronies and will stand up to DC are empty, hollow, meaningless slogans IF, when conservatives need action, your principles require you to do nothing. Cruz supporters seem delighted with a candidate that gets no results. They just need to understand that others see it differently.


121 posted on 01/01/2016 6:22:15 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: okie01

See post 118.


122 posted on 01/01/2016 6:23:46 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

Correction: 121.


123 posted on 01/01/2016 6:24:17 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: FreeReign

After Cruz found out about the blatant legalities/wholesale election theft, did he do anything that produced concrete/desirable results?


124 posted on 01/01/2016 6:25:43 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: SC_Pete

You must actually believe Trump wants conservative things. LMAO. Trump is all ego and will say anything to win the primary. I was not born yesterday. I remember all the things he said that tells me he is a lib at heart and at best no better than all the rinos that have run before him.


125 posted on 01/01/2016 6:38:25 PM PST by carjic (Media and GOPe are making the only people I trust not electable)
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To: Fantasywriter
See post 118.

I did.

So?

What do you want from me, if anything?

126 posted on 01/01/2016 6:48:25 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: okie01

You didn’t get pinged to the “correction” in my very next post?


127 posted on 01/01/2016 6:56:50 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter
Where you get the idea I’m in Mississippi is a mystery to me. I’ve never set foot in the state.

I mixed the GA. and MS. flags.

Here is the problem. Saying you are anti Capital Cronies and will stand up to DC are empty, hollow, meaningless slogans IF, when conservatives need action, your principles require you to do nothing.

You've identified no specific course of action outside of Cruz endorsing McDaniels, and I (and another poster) have already addressed that point.

Cruz supporters seem delighted with a candidate that gets no results. They just need to understand that others see it differently.

There you go again with the generalizations. You should address people individually. Would you like it if I start lumping all Trump supporters as being of a certain type? You need to understand that when you are addressing a person, that you are addressing an individual and not a group.

And here's the problem. You need to understand that Cruz is one congressman out of 535 congressmen who make up one of three branches of a federal government that has constitutionally limited powers. There is only so much one individual congressman can do when just about all the other members of Congress and the other two branches of government are corrupt.

The first step in such a situation is to articulate the correct positions, rallying the people of the country to the correct positions.

Cruz is doing that and now, and you and others are blaming him for the difficulty of his heroic task.

128 posted on 01/01/2016 6:59:01 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Fantasywriter
After Cruz found out about the blatant legalities/wholesale election theft, did he do anything that produced concrete/desirable results?

Again.................identify what you think he should have done.

129 posted on 01/01/2016 7:00:45 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

What I am doing is saying that all words and no results satisfies Cruz supporters, but does not satisfy non-supporters. It’s not just Mississippi, it’s a pattern. When Cruz announced his filibuster I thought it would accomplish something. But it didn’t. Neither did calling McConnell a liar. It’s all just words. That’s not enough for some, though it obviously satisfies others.


130 posted on 01/01/2016 7:05:16 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: FreeReign
Qi Again.................identify what you think he should have done.

Emulate Trump!

The Donald has been able make things happen without the office, nor by spending much money.

131 posted on 01/01/2016 7:09:21 PM PST by papertyger (-/\/\/\-)
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To: Fantasywriter
What I am doing is saying that all words and no results satisfies Cruz supporters...

Dude, I'm really trying to be patient but you are making it very difficult.

I gave you a small explanation about why you should address people individually and not as a group, but it.

And then I asked you again and yet again, what additional thing besides the endorsement thing, should Cruz have done, and you ignore the question yet again.

132 posted on 01/01/2016 7:13:42 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: papertyger

Yeah what?


133 posted on 01/01/2016 7:14:37 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Mollypitcher1
Trump has a track record which is very impressive. Where is Cruz’s record on anything outside of a lot of words and false bluster?

Wow. It's apparent that you really haven't read about either one of them at all...

134 posted on 01/01/2016 7:28:44 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Fantasywriter
You didn’t get pinged to the “correction” in my very next post?

No. You addressed it to yourself.

However, I've now read #121.

Cruz supporters seem delighted with a candidate that gets no results. They just need to understand that others see it differently.

You refer, of course, to the canard that Cruz "can't get anything done" in the Senate.

And, as you're already aware, there is a perfectly good reason why. The GOP Senate leadership isn't going to allow him to get anything done -- the price or having publicly called them out.

Nonetheless, as Sen. Jeff Sessions has explained, Cruz was critical in keeping Rubio and his Gang of 8 from getting anything done, too.

Further, you should be aware that Cruz got quite a bit one in the House. His "Thursday Night Pizza Sessions" helped the House's Freedom Caucus get organized and focussed. I it were not for Cruz's leadership, John Boehner would probably still be Speaker.

If you don't appreciate what Cruz has accomplished in a.) revealing the misleading practices of the Congress and exposing the GOP leadership's role in fostering them, b.) working behind the scenes to help organize the conservative caucus in the House and c.) steadfastly keeping his promise to the Texas voters that elected him...well, I don't know what to tell you.

You may have preferred that he have his name on a few bills appropriating expenditures for a new program or highway. But doing so would've required that he "go along to get along."

We like him the way he is.

While it's true that, to date, Trump has had the most influence on this cycle's election dynamic, it's also true that Trump's impact was enabled by the work Cruz did to expose the GOP-e.

135 posted on 01/01/2016 7:33:08 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: FreeReign
Yeah what?

Deputy: That them shootin'?

Sheriff Langston: No, it's coming from those rocks.

Deputy: Well, let's go. He ain't hittin' nothin'.

Sheriff Langston: You idiot, he's hit everything he's aimed at!

"Silverado" 1985

136 posted on 01/01/2016 7:42:10 PM PST by papertyger (-/\/\/\-)
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To: papertyger
"Silverado" 1985

Cool. I remember that movie.

Back to my question.

What changes have been signed into law because of Trump?

137 posted on 01/01/2016 7:56:01 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Georgia Girl 2
That and the fact that nobody can seem to pull the word deportation from his lips.

Oh, bullcrap.

He has ALWAYS been for border control. Outstandingly so. Build the Fence FIRST.
He has ALWAYS been for deportation of criminal elements.
He has ALWAYS been for drying up welfare and job opportunities.
He assumes correctly that without all the candy, aliens will deport on their own.
THEN 'what to do with what's left.' - which is a reasonable position.

That's straight out of the Duncan Hunter Handbook.

That has been the Conservative position as long as I can remember.

He has been remarkably consistent in that, all the way back to his days in Texas.

It is Trump who is inconsistent and all over the map. He cried, "DEPORT THEM ALL!" ...Which you seem to have heard - Yet you ignore that three days later he turned that into some kind of vague touch-back theme. And likewise, you ignore his LONG record of being *for* amnesty.

Metamorphisis from liberal to conservative in three years or less and you take his word (which is all you have) over a tried and true Conservative lifetime record in Cruz? Which one is likely to actually do what he says?

138 posted on 01/01/2016 8:03:25 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1

I have been keeping a close watch on both of them for a long time. I used to be a Cruz supporter, but no more. He is too closely knit with several issues I do not like.
Trump is the only candidate with the skill set we need at this point in time to get our country back on a sound footing and our people back to work.
A lot of what you “read” is crap. Dig beneath the surface and research to find the real answers.


139 posted on 01/01/2016 8:32:04 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: okie01

It was not Cruz that stopped comprehensive immigration. That is a myth. And if you think Paul Ryan is an improvement over Boehner, what can be said? If anything, he’s worse.


140 posted on 01/01/2016 11:02:03 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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