Posted on 12/02/2015 2:11:58 PM PST by juliosevero
Your venomous spew apparently stands for the entire Roman Catholic cult.
Have any other RC’s chastised her for her vulgar comments?
That speaks volumes.
Your choice.
Remember that when the time comes.
For being bored, you sure seem to produce a vehement reaction.
Your actions belie your words.
If you'd look, you'd see.
But I'm not holding your hand to do it.
The means is there to find out yourself and it's very easy to do.
Heck, I don't even meet you, mom, on the wholesome cooking forums. A nice mommy like you must have a tuna casserole, surely?
Never did tuna casserole. Yuck. Now THAT'S boring.
Since they have not been renounced by other Catholics, we can only conclude that she speaks for them all, especially since some were actually yucking it up over them.
That does more damage to the name of Catholicism than any amount of poorly done studies and correlations.
Give it a rest!
” ... we can only conclude that she speaks for them all.” Um, no, not even. Think about it. Would you like to be ‘assumed’ for the Jack Chick stuff that hit FR, or the weird bowing to some televangelist/prosperity gospel charlatan? ... Neither would I.
Except that by their silence in not condemning such vulgarity, they are consenting to it.
If we remained silent in the face of that kind of thing coming from someone who we claimed affiliation with, I would not blame anyone for presuming that we were by default consenting to it.
That’s the difference.
Sorry for late reply....but your are right about Columbia...most S.America has good land for development and lots of valuable minerals. The minerals have been exposed and brought close to the surface because of all the volcanoes that have erupted since way back in history and today. Many of the countries touching the ocean also have good ports and benefit from industries related to fishing and recreation.
But in all countries, most of the wealth benefits go to the wealthy few and the cartels. Leaving very little for the rest of the population.
My first entry on this post stated, that few Catholic countries even come close to realizing the economic potential and providing a good life(which is within their reach) to society as a whole. Even look at Russia, whose religion is eastern orthodox.
I think the answer has to do with how the Catholic church always allies and is intertwined with the aristocracy and nobles due to their wealth. And the church looksd the other way as the citizenry are abused and allowed to live in poverty.
Not enough data to conclude much of anything. It does seem like a lot of Spanish speaking places though. I’m wondering about the sizes of the cities. There seems to be a size relationship to murder rates.
I just saw this article today, and this is a valid objection, but i find St. Louis being 20% Cath, while "only 43.31% of the people in Detroit, Michigan are religious, meaning they affiliate with a religion."
Yet that seems to be a restricted definition of religion, if it excludes as religious those who do not ID with one of the denominational faiths they list (Baptist, Catholic, etc.).
In addition, City-data.com shows that Caths in St. Louis city County decreased 31% btwn 2000 and 2010 to only 15.4% while during the same period "Nones" increased 80%! Evang. suffered a 3% loss during the same period.
Pew Research explains:
Religious “nones†– a shorthand we use to refer to people who self-identify as atheists or agnostics, as well as those who say their religion is “nothing in particular†– now make up roughly 23% of the U.S. adult population. - http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/05/13/a-closer-look-at-americas-rapidly-growing-religious-nones/
Yet this does not translate into all or even a majority of such being atheists or agnostics any more than being an Independent means one is not political, as many today do not want to ID with any formal category.
Likewise Detroit shows 16% Cath. in 2010 with Nones being 60% (and evangelicals at 10%). Thus a case might be made for the % of Nones corresponding to the % of murders, yet which i do not think would stand.
An argument using false evidence impugns the credibility of the source, ,even if the whole of the contention is right. Here, i would presume it is the % of black culture that most corresponds to murders in the US, with money also being a factor. Meanwhile. here are extensive poll findings as regards RC vs. evang and here is a table of comparisons of US cities based on a number of aspects.
I had posted an article "Religion in Latin America " from Pew Research findings, which is very revealing and relevant to what this article contends.
Across the region, Protestants are more likely than Catholics to say that abortion should be illegal in all or most circumstances and that same-sex couples should not be allowed to legally wed. Protestants also are consistently more likely than Catholics to view drinking alcohol, divorce, sex outside of marriage and using artificial means of birth control as immoral. And Protestants are more inclined than Catholics to say that wives should always obey their husbands.
Catholics who attend Mass weekly generally express lower levels of support for allowing same-sex marriage than do Catholics who attend Mass less often.
Nevertheless, Protestants tend to be more socially conservative than Catholics even when levels of religious observance are taken into account.
(For more details, see below [http://www.pewforum.org/2014/11/13/chapter-5-social-attitudes/#catholics-and-protestants-religious-commitment-and-moral-views].)
Although the Catholic Church teaches that marriage is an “indissoluble union†between a man and a woman, Protestants across Latin America are more solidly opposed to divorce than Catholics are.
The gap between the views of Protestants and Catholics is especially wide in Venezuela, where half of Protestants (52%) say divorce is morally wrong, compared with 22% of Catholics.
Protestants also are far more likely than Catholics to say that divorce is immoral in Peru (67% vs. 39%) and Ecuador (64% vs. 37%).
Latin Americans are divided on the morality of sex outside marriage. In eight of the countries surveyed, majorities of adults say that sex between people who are not married to one another is morally wrong. But in other countries, roughly half or fewer object to sex outside marriage. Moral objections to sex outside marriage are highest in Guatemala (80%) and El Salvador (73%) and lowest in Uruguay (19%), Chile (23%) and Argentina (23%).
Generally, Protestants are more likely to oppose sex outside marriage than are Catholics. In 15 countries plus Puerto Rico, majorities of Protestants say that sex between people who are not married to each other is morally wrong. Among Catholics, half or fewer share this view in most countries surveyed.
As on other topics related to morality, differences between Protestants and Catholics are especially pronounced in Venezuela, where 77% of Protestants and 36% of Catholics say that sex outside marriage is morally wrong. Gaps of 30 percentage points or more between Protestants and Catholics also are seen in Colombia, Chile, Brazil and Panama.
In most countries, fewer than a third of adults – including just 10% of Argentinians, 8% of Chileans and 5% of Uruguayans – say that using contraceptives is morally wron
Objections to artificial means of birth control are highest in Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador and Panama,
In many countries surveyed, significantly higher shares of Protestants than Catholics say that using contraceptives is morally wrong.
In Chile, for example, roughly a quarter of Protestants (23%) say using contraceptives is morally wrong, compared with just 5% of Catholics. And in Peru, about four-in-ten Protestants (39%) object to artificial means of birth control, compared with 23% of Catholics.
Here is a post with many stats on growth and demographics,
And here are
The Most and Least Bible-Minded Cities in America ...
The US cities with the most religious venues per capita aren ...
The top ranking cities, where at least half of the population qualifies as Bible-minded, are all Southern cities. This includes the media markets for Knoxville, TN (52% of the population are Bible-minded), Shreveport, LA (52%), Chattanooga, TN (52%), Birmingham, AL (50%), and Jackson, MS (50%). Other markets in the top 10 include Springfield, MO (49%), Charlotte, NC (48%), Lynchburg, VA (48%), Huntsville-Decatur, AL (48%), and Charleston, WV (47%).
The least Bible-oriented markets include a mix of regions, but tend to be from the New England area. Easily the lowest Bible-minded scores came from Providence, RI (9%) and Albany, NY (10%). To put this in perspective, the most Bible-minded markets are five times more likely to have residents who qualify as Bible-minded than is true in these two Northeastern cities. - See where your city ranks. See all 96 cities here. - http://cities.barna.org/americas-most-and-least-bible-minded-cities-2/
Sometimes it makes a kind of weird sense to look at "intensity" and "frequency" across faiths. Morally-socially, I probably have more in common with red-hot Chabad Jews than I do with triflin' Obama-bumper-sticker C&E Catholics.
Interesting no one deals with the religion of those who perpetrate the crimes, instead of the general population.
Thanks for the thanks, though they were a little late.
"Religion" is always a dicey statistical category, because of the strikingly different ways to tabulate religious category: #of baptisms, #of "self-identified as..,"
Most poll researchers use the latter from what i have read, except that they sometimes class "evangelicals" based upon denom affiliation or affirmation of being "born again" or the like.
is the mixed-bag of "non-Catholic Christians" the same as Protestants? or Evangelicals?
That would likely be those who are nondenominational.
because the Orthodox are statistically insignificant
I think usually they are included under Catholic, and many of them claim that term describes them anyway.
Did they count Pentecostals separately? How about Mormons? How about SDA? Etc. etc.
Yes, at least in terms of major surveys such as Pew and sources i usually see, but that depends upon what the survey is about. And Pentecostal denoms may also count as evang.
Morally-socially, I probably have more in common with red-hot Chabad Jews than I do with triflin' Obama-bumper-sticker C&E Catholics.
We would elect Pharisees based on basic moral views. Cruz control is the best as far as i see now.
My sister is married to a doctor who is from San Pedro (naturalized citizen and here in the US since 1960) and almost all of his surviving family are now living here in the U.S.
One of his nieces is currently on vacation to Roatan which is in the Bay Islands and she won't step foot in San Pedro due to the violence from the drug cartels. Streets are cordoned off, personal security are protecting the houses of the wealthy. According to her, it's become a virtual war zone.............
As far as electing Pharisees, based on moral views: yes, yes, obviously!
I meant relative to the date the article was posted.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3367350/posts?page=42#42
hi mark
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