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Let me tell you about our new friend...Vladimir Putin
US Defense Watch ^ | November 29, 2015 | Ray Starmann

Posted on 11/29/2015 8:00:07 PM PST by pboyington

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1 posted on 11/29/2015 8:00:07 PM PST by pboyington
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To: pboyington
"Muslims make for terrible enemies, and even worse allies."

Napoleon, in his memoirs.

2 posted on 11/29/2015 8:03:45 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: pboyington

“If we had any brains we’d get rid of ISIS, let Putin have Syria with Assad, and put loyal thugs in power in every Middle Eastern country to help us counter Iran”

I so much agree with that.


3 posted on 11/29/2015 8:08:25 PM PST by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat.)
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To: pboyington

Man - this guy can write and he makes some excellent points!

Quote - Putin is like the kid showing up with a football on Obamas doorstep who wants to play catch with Barry, who throws like a girl and would rather play Connect Four with his grandma.

That made me laugh out loud. Well played! This guy just went onto my bookmark list.


4 posted on 11/29/2015 8:09:00 PM PST by volunbeer
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To: pboyington

Stop trying to sell me a bridge. Putin is NOT our friend.


5 posted on 11/29/2015 8:11:30 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: pboyington

Russia is showing that they don’t need a “lifeline,” which, in any case, given the US distaste for casualties, would only serve to slow the war effort. Obama won. We are a second-rate power.


6 posted on 11/29/2015 8:13:57 PM PST by sparklite2 (Islam = all bathwater, no baby.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Truth. Even worse, Obama’s working with him and some people want to blind themselves to that.


7 posted on 11/29/2015 8:15:36 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: RIghtwardHo

But he is an enemy of at least some of our enemies, and acts like one, which is more than you can say for us.


8 posted on 11/29/2015 8:16:53 PM PST by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton))
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To: RIghtwardHo

The enemy of my enemy is most certainly my friend.


9 posted on 11/29/2015 8:17:48 PM PST by sparklite2 (Islam = all bathwater, no baby.)
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To: pboyington
We are at war and the US refuses to throw out a lifeline to the one country and leader that could help us destroy our mutual enemy; Russia and Vladimir Putin …
Everyone is suddenly FDR these days. The identities of the P5+1, who made the Iran “deal”, seem to have escaped too many people’s minds. Nice way to leave Israel out in the cold again.
10 posted on 11/29/2015 8:18:04 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: sparklite2

Not in this case. Think about who concocted the Iran “deal”.


11 posted on 11/29/2015 8:18:32 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

“Not in this case. Think about who concocted the Iran “deal”.”

You mean Obama?


12 posted on 11/29/2015 8:19:18 PM PST by sparklite2 (Islam = all bathwater, no baby.)
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To: sparklite2

Not just him. The other members of the P5+1 are France, Germany, the UK, Red China . . . and Russia.


13 posted on 11/29/2015 8:20:50 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

So your point is what? We should hate them all?


14 posted on 11/29/2015 8:21:33 PM PST by sparklite2 (Islam = all bathwater, no baby.)
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To: pboyington
Let me tell you about our new friend Vladimir Putin.

Ray Starmann make a lot of valid points and I agree with most of them, but "Putin is our friend" does not belong anywhere here.

Vladimir Putin is the President of the Russian Federation, and maybe he should be a friend to Russians, and Slavs, but he owes none of this to Americans, it's not his job.

Putin, Russia and American citizens have some common INTERESTS, and destroying ISIS, political Islam and radical Islam are some of the common interests we all have.

Yes, we should support Putin and Russia in this endeavor, but not because we are "friends", Nations are never "friends".

15 posted on 11/29/2015 8:22:36 PM PST by Navy Patriot (America, a Rule of Mob nation)
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To: sparklite2

Well, they all hate us, and Obama is working with them as previously noted, all for a deal to nuke-up Iran and deep-six the USA. Our emotions won’t have an effect on that.


16 posted on 11/29/2015 8:27:52 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: RIghtwardHo
Putin wants to recreate the Soviet Union and to destroy NATO. Obama's fecklessness may allow him to accomplish that...or the next President might. We could defeat ISIS if Obama had any interest in doing so, but his enemies are the Republican Party, pro-lifers, white people and climate change deniers. (Some Americans are all four of those at once.)

Putin's main goal in Syria seems to be to save Assad. Are we supposed to help him achieve that at the cost of NATO, and perhaps consigning Ukraine, the Baltic countries and perhaps Poland to neo-Soviet domination?

17 posted on 11/29/2015 8:29:32 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

When it comes to Obama, always assume the opposite of Hanlon’s Razor. And Putin, who called the fall of the USSR the last century’s “greatest geopolitical catastrophe”, has always been imperial-minded; handing Syria to him puts him right on Israel’s doorstep and as an ally of Iran.


18 posted on 11/29/2015 8:32:06 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

“Not just him. The other members of the P5+1 are France, Germany, the UK, Red China . . . and Russia.”

Of course Russia wants Iran to have a bomb. Russia and the Sunni’s aren’t friends.


19 posted on 11/29/2015 8:34:01 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Time for a global crusades. If we do not act, this is only the beginning.)
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To: pboyington

The feckless fool on the hill has no strategy but one—looking in the mirror at his evil face.


20 posted on 11/29/2015 8:34:48 PM PST by Fungi
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