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Where are the Dead?
American Faith Today ^ | September 19,2015 | American Faith Today

Posted on 09/19/2015 12:27:54 PM PDT by American Faith Today

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To: Mom MD; humblegunner

Don’t worry about humblegunner.
Just keep in mind that he helps keep the blogger pimps at a tolerable level and, he also helps Jim Rob bury the body’s.


41 posted on 09/19/2015 4:46:34 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: right way right

It would be nice if Jim Rob taught him some manners..... But I’m not too worried about what people who do not know me say about me It just shows their ignorance not mine.


42 posted on 09/19/2015 5:07:31 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: unlearner

No “intellect” involved, friend.

You’re right, there’s a lake of fire mentioned in Revelation 20:10 and those who don’t make it or overcome will go there.

However, as mentioned, in Matthew 10:28 Christ says fear not he who can only harm or kill the body but to fear He Who can destroy BOTH body AND soul in hell.

And again, I’ll ask, if Satan is going to be turned to ashes, what’s left to torment “forever and ever”?

The word “forever”, “aion” in the Greek, means age.

It can mean a limited amount of time, or it can mean an eternity.

One of the best explanations for this, on a site I literally just found, states it thusly.

If something is given in the context of one who is eternal, immortal, what have you, forever and ever means an eternity.

If something is given in the context of something liable to die, i.e., mortal, forever is only as long as they’re alive.

As mentioned in Deuteronomy Chapter 15, it speaks of someone being another’s servant FOREVER. Well, naturally “forever” only occurs for however long they live.

Here is the site.

http://www.creation-science-prophecy.com/special1.htm


43 posted on 09/19/2015 5:39:21 PM PDT by American Faith Today
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To: humblegunner; Jim Robinson

As for pretending to have a title I don’t have to give my bona fides to you and I don’t really care if you believe I own the title or not. I am not pretending to be better than anyone but your behavior speaks for itself. You demean yourself by your attitude and rancor towards those you don’t even know. You may call me an arrogant puke but I suggest you look in the mirror

I have copied Jim Rob as he continually defends your rudeness Maybe he would like to see the personal attacks he is defending I am done replying to you as it is a waste of breath and bandwidth


44 posted on 09/19/2015 7:01:04 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: humblegunner

What is the two letter abbreviation for the state of Maryland?


45 posted on 09/19/2015 7:12:07 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Talisker
Eternal punishment for limited sin is not Divine Love.

Allowing Yourself to be tortured and killed at the hands if sinners, so that the sinners might reap the benefits of the Love/Grace?mercy for Your sacrifice is indeed Divine Love.

It is also Divine Humility to allow us to exercise our own free will instead of turning us into obedient robots.

We have been offered a pre-paid "Avoid Eternal Punishment and Enjoy Eternal Bliss" card and it is up to us as to whetehr we want to accept it.

46 posted on 09/20/2015 3:17:24 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: American Faith Today

Human beings are composed of body, soul, and spirit. These are distinct.

Destroy does not mean annihilate.

Sin has corrupted mankind’s ability to discern right from wrong and justice from injustice, at least to varying degrees.

What seems fair to you or anyone else does not really matter. God can and will do as He chooses.

God speaks as to the torment of the Devil in the lake of fire in the same language as those who are appointed to eternal life. Eternal life is given, not because it is fair or because finite good works deserves infinite reward. It is because God ordained it so that those who believe inherit eternal life.

There is eternal life and eternal suffering. The judgment of eternal torment was made for the Devil and his angels. God made a way to escape the judgment of death that He pronounced on mankind. This escape is through faith in Christ’s payment on the cross for our sins and becoming partakers of the power of His resurrection. Those who trust in Him receive the gift of eternal life. Those who remain in unbelief and reject Christ will incur His eternal wrath.

Matthew 25:41
Then shall He say also unto them on the left hand, “Depart from Me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels.”

Saying that eternal torment could mean temporary torment is foolishness based on conjecture. It is quite similar to the Devil telling Adam and Eve, “You shall not surely die.”

God is good and merciful toward those who are His own. But He is also fierce, powerful, and severe in His wrath toward His enemies.

John 3:36
He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.


47 posted on 09/20/2015 8:47:40 AM PDT by unlearner (RIP America, 7/4/1776 - 6/26/2015, "Only God can judge us now." - Claus Von Stauffenberg / Valkyrie)
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