Posted on 06/23/2015 3:08:59 PM PDT by smoothsailing
Edited on 06/23/2015 4:08:33 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
I’m curious about all these details that conservativejoy is claiming and making up, as well.
Yeah - I’ve read the Baltimore Sun article that is linked in the Conservative Treehouse article, and I’m not seeing any of these details. Odd, no?
The other passenger were the young man observed in a hand to hand with transaction with Gray by an undercover officer before the initial contact and chase.
The other passenger’s identity was not disclosed for his protection. The last I heard, he was still in custody. The MPH was based on the amount of time it took from arrest to arriving at the station. That pretty much shows that there was no speeding involved and the other passengers said ther was no rough ride.
From that statement, it gives two options to restrain a perp. One by seatbelt, and the other by whatever other restraining devices the department authorizes, which could be handcuffs, leg irons, either with short chain or long chain, both, etc. That second option is open to interpretation.
The beginning of the end for Mosby and Obama.
The GOP were given power to stop Obama and ,D’oh, now the GOP are helping Obama
He was probably high, and his judement a bit off.
Trust me here... If you allowed your kid to ride in the back of your truck without being buckled in and (God forbid) he died as a result, you would be charged with homicide of one variety or another.
“He was probably high, and his judement a bit off.”
A person having their “judgement” off in common even without being high. Keep in mind that half the people in the world are below average (median actually) intelligence.
Below are excerpts from page 3 of the report from The Conservative Treehouse. There are two pages and a video preceding this. The original report was from The Baltimore Sun.
Autopsy: ‘Acts of omission’ made Freddie Gray’s death a homicide.
“High energy” injury, like shallow-water diving accident, killed Freddie Gray, autopsy found.
Freddie Gray suffered a single “high-energy injury” — like those seen in shallow-water diving incidents — most likely caused when the police van in which he was riding suddenly decelerated, according to a copy of the autopsy report obtained by The Baltimore Sun..
The state medical examiner’s office concluded that Gray’s death could not be ruled an accident, and was instead a homicide, because officers failed to follow safety procedures “through acts of omission.”
The Baltimore state’s attorney’s office charged the six officers involved in Gray’s arrest and death. Officer Caesar R. Goodson Jr. the driver of the van, is charged with second-degree depraved heart murder, while three other officers are charged with manslaughter. The remaining officers face lesser charges.
All of the officers have pleaded not guilty and a trial has been set for October.
The autopsy report was completed April 30, the day before State’s Attorney Marilyn Mosby announced criminal charges against the officers. The autopsy has not been made public, and the deadline for releasing evidence in the case to defense lawyers is Friday. A copy of the autopsy was obtained and verified by sources who requested anonymity because of the high-profile nature of the case.
Mosby’s office and the state medical examiner declined to comment.
Gray tested positive for opiates and cannabinoid when he was admitted to Maryland Shock Trauma Center, according to the autopsy. The report makes no further reference to the drugs found in his system.
The report does not note any previous injuries to Gray’s spine.
The autopsy details a chronology of the events surrounding Gray’s arrest that helped inform the medical examiner’s conclusion. The medical examiner relied upon witness statements, videos and an examination of the transport van.
While bystanders captured his arrest on video showing Gray moaning for help, the autopsy concluded that Gray suffered no injuries to suggest a neck hold or stemming from physical restraint. Assistant medical examiner Carol H. Allan noted that Gray could be seen bearing weight on his legs and speaking as he was loaded into the van.
Officers placed Gray on a metal bench running from front to back along the outside wall of the van. After the doors were closed, he could be heard yelling and banging, “causing the van to rock,” the autopsy noted.
The van made several stops. The second stop occurred a few blocks away on Baker Street, where officers placed an identification band and leg restraints on Gray.
“Reportedly, Mr. Gray was still yelling and shaking the van,” the medical examiner wrote. “He was removed from the van and placed on the ground in a kneeling position, facing the van doors, while ankle cuffs were placed, and then slid onto the floor of the van, belly down and head first, reportedly still verbally and physically active.
Authorities previously said the third stop in the area of Fremont and Mosher streets was captured on video, which showed the van driver, Goodson, getting out and looking in the back.
During a fourth stop, at Dolphin Street and Druid Hill Avenue, authorities said Goodson called for assistance, at which point Officer William Porter, one of the officers who has been charged with manslaughter, got involved.
“The assisting officer opened the doors and observed Mr. Gray lying belly down on the floor with his head facing the cabin compartment, and reportedly he was asking for help, saying he couldn’t breathe, couldn’t get up, and needed a medic,” the autopsy says. “The officer assisted Mr. Gray to the bench and the van continued on its way.”
The van made a fifth stop at North and Pennsylvania avenues to pick up a second arrestee, where Mosby has said Sgt. Alicia White helped check on Gray. “Mr. Gray was found kneeling on the floor, facing the front of the van and slumped over to his right against the bench, and reportedly appeared lethargic with minimal responses to direct questions,” the report says.
The medical examiner concluded that Gray’s most significant injury was to the lower left part of his head. Given the descriptions of his demeanor and positioning in the van, it most likely occurred after the second and before fourth stops made by the van driver, and possibly before the third stop, according to the autopsy.
While it’s possible Gray was hurt while lying on the floor and moving back and forth, Allan determined his body likely couldn’t have moved in that position with enough force to cause his injuries.
Allan surmised that Gray could have gotten to his feet using the bench and opposite wall. With his hands and ankles restrained, and unable to see out of the van and anticipate turns, she said he was at a high risk for an unsupported fall.
She also noted the possibility that Gray’s neck injury occurred “with him in a partially reclining position or as he was changing his position on the floor of the van,” if the van moved abruptly enough.
The injury to Gray’s spinal cord would have caused loss of function of his limbs, and would have “direct effects” on his ability to breathe, according to the autopsy.
Police had said in a court filing that the second passenger reported hearing Gray banging and kicking through the metal divider before the fifth stop. Allan said that would not have been possible given Gray’s injuries, but he may have been suffering a seizure at the time, which could have caused the noise, she said.
This article was updated to correct the medical examiner’s characterization of what would have constituted an accidental death, and the van stop at which Sgt. Alicia White checked on Gray.
Please see post 69.
Not really. conservative treehouse consistently references articles in the MSM and then makes outrageous claims that aren’t supported by the original source.
The confederate flag did it.
Your posts don’t add up with the facts, you are embellishing too much.
“During a fourth stop, at Dolphin Street and Druid Hill Avenue, authorities said Goodson called for assistance, at which point Officer William Porter, one of the officers who has been charged with manslaughter, got involved.
“The assisting officer opened the doors and observed Mr. Gray lying belly down on the floor with his head facing the cabin compartment, and reportedly he was asking for help, saying he couldn’t breathe, couldn’t get up, and needed a medic,” the autopsy says. “The officer assisted Mr. Gray to the bench and the van continued on its way.”
The van made a fifth stop at North and Pennsylvania avenues to pick up a second arrestee, where Mosby has said Sgt. Alicia White helped check on Gray. “Mr. Gray was found kneeling on the floor, facing the front of the van and slumped over to his right against the bench, and reportedly appeared lethargic with minimal responses to direct questions,” the report says.
The medical examiner concluded that Gray’s most significant injury was to the lower left part of his head. Given the descriptions of his demeanor and positioning in the van, it most likely occurred after the second and before fourth stops made by the van driver, and possibly before the third stop, according to the autopsy.”
“Gray tested positive for opiates and cannabinoid when he was admitted to Maryland Shock Trauma Center, according to the autopsy. The report makes no further reference to the drugs found in his system”
Please read the rest of the article and post 69.
You wrote:
“Apparently the level of heroin was high enough that the M.E. says he could have been having convulsions.”
That is not supported by anything you just posted from the article...
“...all passengers, regardless of age and location, shall be restrained by seat belts or other authorized restraining devices.”
Thanks for that information. That puts a new light on this for sure.
The reference I spoke of was The Baltimore Sun. The Conservative Treehouse was using their reporting.
What do you think a seizure is? That consists of convulsions.
Of course it was, the paddy wagon was white, doncha know..............
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