Wikileaks uncovers important chapter of the TPP

AnonGalactic ^ | June 4, 2015

[2ndDivisionVet]

Then why bother arguing about the “objectionable” things he’s done or voted on, unless you’re trying to be a sh*+ - stirrer? We know that Hillary was born in Illinois and we know that you’ll likely vote for her. Good for you!

[SatinDoll]

Now, now...you know I’m a Conservative and not in any ways a shit stirrer. We are still becoming familiar with the possible candidates for President, and it is difficult for them to make the switch from governing a state or being a non-governing Senator.

[2ndDivisionVet]

Like Abraham Lincoln?

[SatinDoll]

He was a lawyer. Ronald Reagan was an actor; so what?

It was the principles of these American born men that made them good Presidents in difficult times.

[2ndDivisionVet]

He served only one two year term in the House of Representatives. PERIOD. Ted Cruz has already passed that mark, as well as being the longest-serving Solicitor General of Texas, a presidential adviser, an assistant US Attorney General, running a department at the Federal Trade Commission and being one of the preeminent lawyers of his generation. That's what.

[SatinDoll]

WOW! You’re really miffed. I read your corrections of the spelling at another thread (”sight” rather than “site”). Why not chill a bit. Lincoln’s dead and I’m about ready to go to bed.

[cpdiii]

“You have to pass the bill to see what is in it.”

That is what Nancy Pelosi said about Obamacare and how did that work out?

[2ndDivisionVet]

Lincoln is judged the best US president by the majority of historians, as I’m sure you know. He was a well-known, respected railroad (read corporate) lawyer in his day.

[Usagi_yo]

Perhaps, but the oddity still exists to wit: Why is a trade agreement secret? It’s only secret from the American People. I can’t think of why a multilateral trade agreement would need to be secret.

[AllAmericanGirl44]

bkmk

[2ndDivisionVet]

They say it’s to keep the negotiations between countries and companies secret.

[Talisker]

Why is a trade agreement secret? It’s only secret from the American People. I can’t think of why a multilateral trade agreement would need to be secret.

I can.

Take a stiff drink.

Take another.

See? Now you can too.

[Sherman Logan]

This treaty may very well be a bad idea, but by this bit alone the article demonstrates its dishonesty.

Similar mechanisms have already been used. For example, ... by the oil giant Chevron against Ecuador in an attempt to evade a multi-billion-dollar compensation ruling for polluting the environment.

It has been comprehensively proven, in US courts, that this lawsuit in Ecuadorean courts was the result of a criminal conspiracy between corrupt Ecuadorean officials and courts, international enviro groups and corrupt US law firms.

The extent to which Chevron is responsible for pollution of Ecadorean forests is undetermined at this time. Chevron may very well be lying, but then so are their opponents.

[Maris Crane]

I’m new to posting, but I have been lurking for years.
I have read many posts by you.
I am seeing a new side of you.

[G Larry]

If it were only Obama supporting the secrecy, I’d be more concerned.

The fact of some Conservative support tells me it may be more about keeping other countries from objecting to specifics.

[CPT Clay]

here we go

[Usagi_yo]

"The fact of some Conservative support tells me it may be more about keeping other countries from objecting to specifics". Do you know how silly that sounds?

[G Larry]

No..tell us....

[Usagi_yo]

Maybe you should be more illustrated.

[G Larry]

I must not be drawn....