Posted on 06/03/2015 8:48:50 AM PDT by don-o
“I find it interesting that over 5 biker gangs were there but eight of the nine killed were from one gang only, the very gang rumored to have been unwilling to pay a narcotics trafficking territory fee.”
So you are saying the bikers killed were drug traffickers or part of a drug trafficking biker gang?
My take on this is that any idiot who assumes that everyone riding motorcycles and wearing denim or leather clothing covered in patches is a criminal has zero business in law enforcement, legal practice, or the judiciary.
Now, members of the public with ignorance or phobias of this sort are just annoying. When you get a hysterical over reach like this then there is a problem.
My take on this is that any idiot who assumes that everyone riding motorcycles and wearing denim or leather clothing covered in patches is a criminal has zero business in law enforcement, legal practice, or the judiciary.
Now, members of the public with ignorance or phobias of this sort are just annoying. When you get a hysterical over reach like this then there is a problem.
My take on this is that any idiot who assumes that everyone riding motorcycles and wearing denim or leather clothing covered in patches is a criminal has zero business in law enforcement, legal practice, or the judiciary.
Now, members of the public with ignorance or phobias of this sort are just annoying. When you get a hysterical over reach like this then there is a problem.
So .. if someone pulls out a weapon ... say a knife ... it's OK for the cops to shoot both of you ... is that what you are saying ?
As of right now, that is my guess as well.
Triple post. Not a record for my phone, but irritating.
These thoughts had crossed my mind...but others here would say that' over the top paranoid.
Still, who is guarding the guards?
“Why shouldn’t we accept the idea that people are innocent until proven guilty?”
Of course this is the case. The accused do not need to prove innocence, accuser must prove guilt in court.
But that is not relevant to the point I made concerning acceptance of claims.
I can no more accept the claim that all these arrested bikers are guilty than the claim that they are all innocent and being railroaded.
There is no way for me to know either is the case, nor for anyone else commenting on this issue here.
I like the way they label the military vehicles “Rescue”.
You are TOO kind. I have time on my hands these days, so I choose to use a great deal of it in this matter.
We all need to be encouraging each other to think deeply and soberly about what is happening before our eyes.
Trite it may be, but those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.
It's not only the NYT who has trolls in the basement.
Am I the only one around here (no, I'm not) that is sensing the Christian West of the world is being increasingly pressed from all sides, all at once?
Just how many types of subversion are there, anyway?
Even the same ol', same 'ol keeps taking slightly shape-shifted, fresher form.
It really hurts when some of the useful idiots (who are tearing at the Constitutional foundations) are empowered within government, included down to level of localized LE itself.
If good guys wear white hats, I'd go broke if I was to attempt to supply/sell those to who deserved to wear 'em?
I long for a simpler age that never truly was(?) I suppose...
Pretty much what im saying in a public.place in a threatening manner yes. That is the cop’s job. Should the cop hand them a questionnaire regarding their intentions?
Man, there are those on this forum that believe that it is ok. for the police to shoot whomever that please, for any reason and no reason. I do believe though that I could add with fear of being contradicted, so long as they are not one of those the police decide to shoot.
Both of you? That is a purely speculative assumption.
Perhaps the whole thing was a precursor to Jade Helm. Getting armed bikers out of the equation before the 'exercise' starts.
That’s what you said. The cops shot and arrested people whose only crime was being there. That’s not speculation.
Ultimate guilt or innocence is not what I (and many others) have been discussing. Of course, there IS speculation on what MAY have occurred and where ultimate guilt and innocence may fall. I do not do a lot of that myself.
However, there are several aspects of what we DO know that can be argued on the merits, related to due process of law, which many of us see as being trampled on.
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