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To Those Celebrating Josh Duggar's Fall: Congratulations. You Still Lose.
Charting Course ^ | 5/22/15 | Steve Berman

Posted on 05/22/2015 11:56:44 AM PDT by lifeofgrace

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This is not the normal Freeper fare that I generally post here...but this post is going viral on Facebook so I thought I'd give it a whirl on FR. Read at your own risk.
1 posted on 05/22/2015 11:56:44 AM PDT by lifeofgrace
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To: lifeofgrace
Twelve years old. Called "of tender years," I believe, in law, when children are not quite accountable for what the do.

On the same subject for those interested, over in Religion Forum: Wisdom Cries Out...On Stoning The Duggars

2 posted on 05/22/2015 12:06:06 PM PDT by OK Sun (Freedom is not just another word.)
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To: lifeofgrace

Duggar is not a perfect soul. Neither am I. Neither are you.

Yeah, but I’m perfect enough not to rape children.


3 posted on 05/22/2015 12:19:37 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: OK Sun

He was 14, not 12, when it happened.


4 posted on 05/22/2015 12:23:54 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: CaptainK

Thanks.


5 posted on 05/22/2015 12:25:52 PM PDT by OK Sun (Freedom is not just another word.)
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To: OK Sun

Yeah, one young kid copping a feel on another kid didn’t used to be called “molestation”. It wasn’t acceptable behavior, but it wasn’t something that got people labeled a sex predator.


6 posted on 05/22/2015 12:30:24 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Oliviaforever

Well said.
I think there’s a basic problem with making idols out of people. This article tries to minimize his crime - what a “pleasure it was” to meet him etc. No one said child molestors couldn’t be pleasant when they want to be. Humble? I hope that “humility” is utter shame. I was never a fan of the show so I have no impulse to write the kind of defensive screed in the OP. I understand that there have been many who attacked the show strictly because of their spiritual faith and yes, those will celebrate this depravity as it is useful to their cause. But I don’t understand the “need” the OP had to defend a child molester in supposed support of Christianity. I don’t want to read about what a nice man he is ...towards adults...when I know what he has done to children, his own sisters. *shudder*


7 posted on 05/22/2015 12:30:28 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: Oliviaforever

Why mention rape? There was no rape involved in this situation, that I know of.


8 posted on 05/22/2015 12:31:00 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: OK Sun

He was 14yrs old when it happened.

14yr old boys don’t normally fondle their 4yr old sisters.


9 posted on 05/22/2015 12:31:47 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Boogieman

If he were a 5yr old boy playing doctor with his 4yr old sister I’d agree.

He was a 14yr old boy playing with his 4yr old sister.


10 posted on 05/22/2015 12:32:36 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Boogieman

He digitally penetrated at least one of them.


11 posted on 05/22/2015 12:32:57 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Boogieman

A 14 year old is one year away from high school.
Can a 14 year old cop a feel on an 8 year old?
It went further than that.


12 posted on 05/22/2015 12:35:25 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: lifeofgrace
There will be distortions.

And whitewashing. Like this article.

Kids looking at each other's privates and touching is one thing.

A teenager fondling his pre-school aged sister is disturbing and that people are defending him at all is astounding.

13 posted on 05/22/2015 12:36:49 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Black Agnes

Ah, I didn’t know that, none of the stories I read had any specifics about the victims other than that two were his sisters. That is quite troubling then.


14 posted on 05/22/2015 12:38:25 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: lifeofgrace

I wonder hiw the original poster knows that “his family is past it”. Particularly his sisters that he violated multiple times. Have they expressed that they are “past it”?? (And for the poster who said he did nothing more than “cop a feel”, read the police report.)

Quit acting like Josh Duggar is the victim or that his parents are the victims. He molested his sisters and another young woman multiple times. THEY are the victims!


15 posted on 05/22/2015 12:38:29 PM PDT by GIdget2004
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To: lifeofgrace

I see that TV remains a cesspool. Cable will not be reconnected after its 20 hiatus anytime soon.


16 posted on 05/22/2015 12:40:45 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: lifeofgrace
Josh Duggar publicly confessed that accusations of his being investigated for child abuse 12 years ago are true.

Funny thing how people "confess" only after someone else blows the whistle on them.

17 posted on 05/22/2015 12:41:03 PM PDT by gdani (No sacred cows)
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To: Boogieman

14 almost 15, sneaking into their room and groping them. Sorry, that is not harmless kid behavior. That is a symptom of wiring gone bad in the brain. It shows at the very least some mild sexual predator tendency. Unfortunately, the cure rate, according to every study out there, is almost nil.

He can and is forgiven. I believe he can still lead a productive life, but he needs professional counseling and LIFELONG monitoring. Nothing against the man personally, but that is the basic truth. Forgiveness, but boundaries, is what we teach in CR to people suffering from abuse and molestation.


18 posted on 05/22/2015 12:41:17 PM PDT by okkev68
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To: lifeofgrace

I’m an imperfect person and Christian who has done some bad things in the past. I know Christ forgave them. I know, if Duggar is a Christian, that Christ forgave him....BUT this is a perfect example of another sin....the sin of pride. The Duggars sought fame. Fame is the devils playground. Once you start playing with his monkey bars it’s only a matter of time until you fall off.


19 posted on 05/22/2015 12:41:23 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Boogieman

“Why mention rape? There was no rape involved in this situation, that I know of.”

If you do not think that is rape, you can test that theory by going to the local playground and doing the very same thing Josh did to a random four year old child.

Ping me in 80 years after you get out of prison.


20 posted on 05/22/2015 12:42:30 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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