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TX: Not Guilty, and Handcuffed; Woman Forced to Shoot Attacking Ex
Gun Watch ^ | 5 April, 2015 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 04/04/2015 8:26:47 AM PDT by marktwain

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A young armed woman defends herself from an attack of her ex. Not. Guilty.
1 posted on 04/04/2015 8:26:47 AM PDT by marktwain
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Justified.


2 posted on 04/04/2015 8:29:21 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: marktwain

It is to bad we let the government get so far down the gun control road in this country. We need an immediate return to maximum firearm freedom, minimum gubmint interference.


3 posted on 04/04/2015 8:35:14 AM PDT by exnavy (An armed society is a polite society.)
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To: ought-six

Yes. She was justified in her shooting.

I contend that on freerepublic, she is Not Guilty.


4 posted on 04/04/2015 8:58:09 AM PDT by marktwain
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If you are going to shoot anybody, shoot to kill. If you are willing to use a lethal weapon, then use it for its intended purpose.

Not criticizing, just saying.


5 posted on 04/04/2015 8:59:01 AM PDT by SpirituTuo
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To: marktwain

Poor thing looks stunned and in shock while sitting in that car. She shot him in the leg. The fact that she protected herself is good. However, I have to wonder what will happen to him when he is released from the hospital and subsequent police custody? If she was my daughter, she would be packed up and sent to a loving relative to keep her safe. The ex has proven himself to be violent. I just hope there isn’t any further violence perpetrated upon this young woman.


6 posted on 04/04/2015 8:59:41 AM PDT by momtothree
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If you are entitled to use deadly force, you probably shouldn’t be shooting someone in the leg. Although it isn’t clear whether the car was moving at the time.


7 posted on 04/04/2015 9:09:50 AM PDT by PAR35
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If you are going to shoot anybody, shoot to kill. If you are willing to use a lethal weapon, then use it for its intended purpose.

How do you know what her intentions were? I contend that she was driving, fighting and apparently also shooting to defend herself. Did she close an eye and aim while using a good stance with both hands on the gun? I doubt that too. But your comment can be found on every single FR self defense shooting thread unless the bad guy took two in the chest and one in the head.

8 posted on 04/04/2015 9:11:02 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (POPOF. President Of Pants On Fire.)
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To: marktwain

BUMP


9 posted on 04/04/2015 9:22:30 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Tenacious 1
I don't blame her for not hitting center of mass. It's hard to get a good sight picture while being punched in the face.

It does seem like she talked to the police before seeing a lawyer. What happens if you have a vehemently anti-gun prosecutor and you confess to some minor technical violation of how you were carrying or use the wrong words like being in fear of your safety rather than fear of your life? Shut up and talk to a lawyer before talking to the cops...even in Texas.

10 posted on 04/04/2015 9:26:25 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Darth Obama on 529 plans: I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.)
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To: SpirituTuo
Agree. . .but I think the reporter made an erroneous assumption that she deliberately shot the guy in the leg. The reporter wasn't there. The guy was hit in the leg and the reporter assumed that is where she was aiming. You know. . .people always hit where they aim, arm, leg, hand. . .whatever, even when in close quarters and during a struggle.
11 posted on 04/04/2015 9:30:40 AM PDT by Hulka
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I think the reporter made an assumption she was aiming for the leg. They were fighting, struggling in a vehicle. . .pretty big assumption she deliberately aimed at his leg.
12 posted on 04/04/2015 9:32:27 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Tenacious 1

Again not judging her, just a general statement. If that was all she could hit, well, so be it.

The decision to draw a weapon indicates a willingness to use lethal force. The possession and use of a firearm is very serious and should be treated as such.

Unfortunately, we have heard any number of people calling for police to shoot with the intent to wound. We also know that is unsound advice for any number of reasons.

Again, the general rules are to not draw a gun unless ready to use lethal force, and don’t own a gun unless you know how to, and are prepared to, use it.


13 posted on 04/04/2015 9:40:21 AM PDT by SpirituTuo
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In this situation she was not in control of the vehicle, so possibly shooting him in the HEAD
while driving at whatever rate of speed wouldn't have been a good idea.

This would be one of those "Had to be there" situations where a split second
judgment call was required involving personal safety also.
She missed his balls, aim for the balls!

14 posted on 04/04/2015 9:49:36 AM PDT by MaxMax (Call the local GOP and ask how you can support CRUZ for POTUS, Make them talk!)
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To: Hulka

Yes, she may have hit him in the thigh and been aiming a bit higher and toward the middle.

Still, it was probably a strategic error to leave him alive at this point.


15 posted on 04/04/2015 9:55:29 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: MaxMax

Wasn’t there, just offering general guidance.


16 posted on 04/04/2015 9:59:49 AM PDT by SpirituTuo
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To: Tenacious 1; SpirituTuo; KarlInOhio

What is really needed (and would have been especially appropriate in this case) is the implementation of principles such as those shown here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bm3GgDxPOM


17 posted on 04/04/2015 10:08:15 AM PDT by shibumi ("Vampire Outlaw of the Milky Way")
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To: Tenacious 1; All

“If you are going to shoot anybody, shoot to kill. If you are willing to use a lethal weapon, then use it for its intended purpose.”

I believe that the above advise is unsound for a number of reasons.

First, every credible trainer that I know of advises people to shoot to stop the attack, not to shoot to kill. Shooting to stop may kill the attacker, and it may not. Shooting to kill shows a very likely illegal intent.

Second, the intended purpose of deadly weapons is highly debatable. If their purpose is to kill people, the vast majority fail miserably.

I contend that the purpose of deadly weapons (and all firearms) is to project force. In interpersonal relationships, it is to gain compliance, one way or another.

This seldom, but sometimes, involves killing.


18 posted on 04/04/2015 10:13:20 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: momtothree

She needs counseling, not handcuffs


19 posted on 04/04/2015 10:16:46 AM PDT by GeronL (CLEARLY CRUZ 2016)
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To: marktwain

“He came banging on the window, he forced her away from the driver’s side to the passenger side, then he became the driver”

That doesn’t make any sense. How about, lock your door. Actually that particular vehicle locks as soon as you put it in drive. But whatever. You’re in a damn car. Drive away.


20 posted on 04/04/2015 10:28:28 AM PDT by saleman (?)
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