Posted on 12/04/2014 5:10:23 AM PST by LeoMcNeil
Lets get something straight. The two instances New York and Ferganson have one thing in common that is not addressed. Both perps were resisting, that in itself is illegal, had they not then they would be here bitching about harassment. If they had been killed, not by resisting but evading and been hit by a car would the results been any different?
It’s likely the events of the arrest contributed to Garner’s death, but the man would be alive today if he complied with arrest #9. You can also thank Bloomberg/Diblasio for the nanny slurpee laws the police are compelled to enforce.
But the lies broadcast that Garner died of a chokehold need to stop. It’s fanning the flames just like Ferguson.
I agree. Based on the video, it’s clear that Garner is resisting arrest. All of the testimony in Ferguson indicates Michael Brown was resisting. It’s really as simple as this, if you don’t want the cops to kill you don’t resist arrest or attempt to flee.
“I don’t think arrest numbers matter as much to the dead man as they do to you.”
Well if the law mattered to Garner, he’d be alive today. I understand he didn’t agree with the law, but he should have taken up getting it changed. I don’t always like laws, like the speed limits but I know I have to follow those laws like everyone else. Do the “little people” get to pick and choose which laws to obey? Another point, there may have been more to the story than just selling illegal cigarettes.
I have seen the perp resisting arrest. No other image needed.
It matters not what initiates the arrest, once you resist the arrest, it is game on, and you are now “fighting the law”. The “law” never loses.
Don’t start no trouble and there will be no trouble........
It was nice discussing with you, too. Thank you.
This guy didn’t die over cigarettes or drugs, or the war on something or other or “taxes”, he died because of something that needs to be fixed in police work at the street level.
This is about blue collar work by armed union men and methods and techniques of routine arrests, not cigarettes and taxes.
But for the cigarette tax law Garner never would have been approached by the police. If he wasn’t approached by the police he wouldn’t have attempted to push them away. Having not attempted to push the cops away Garner wouldn’t have been gang tackled and choked by the cops. If Garner wasn’t gang tacked and choked by the cops, he wouldn’t have died. I’m not going to blame the cops for taking this guy down. He appears to be resisting arrest and when someone does that the cops have a duty to subdue that person and arrest him. The cops don’t know if this guy has a gun or not, for all they know if they step away from him he’ll pull out a gun. The problem is that the cops are playing tax collector while actual criminals rape, pillage and kill all over the city.
LOL, but for whatever crime that brought up a routine arrest nothing would happen.
Whether it is an unpaid traffic ticket, or selling beer, cigarettes or chili dogs illegally, or whatever, the problem with this case is the death caused by the methods and techniques used in this routine arrest.
Methods and techniques that wouldn’t have been used had the arrestee not resisted arrest.
That evidently shouldn’t have been used in this minor and routine arrest when they had all the time and cops they could possibly need to make this routine arrest without the man dying.
At some point people need to start being willing to question these growing numbers of deaths resulting from incompetence and impatience of these union workers.
Instead, you think it is about taxes.
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