Another GM Recall Bombshell Raises More Questions

NLPC ^ | November 10, 2014 | Mark Modica

[MediaMole]

Ignition turns off, cutting power, locks the steering wheel and turns off the airbags.

You have no power, can’t turn your car and the airbags are off, so you take the brunt of any crash.

Nasty.

[ExCTCitizen]

Buy a GM auto and get a FREE RECALL.

[trebb]

GM deals with din-bulb-crats, and as an ex GM owner, I can testify that all of their divisions were run by MBAs, with 100 MBAs for each engineer. Nevah again, GM. Shove your cr*p up your collective Obamaholes.

But....but..., according to the commercials, GM is the most awarded copany this year, bar none....

I keep getting notifs from a local GM dealer that they want my 2010 Camry because it's a high-demand car and they will even pay me a few grand above its Blue Book value to put me in a GM car. My Camry has 80K miles and feals and drives like it was new - will probably outlast anything they could put me in today and be cheaper to operate for the next 5-6 years too.

[Cboldt]

Other than the random timing, I wonder how the ignition switch opening differs from running out of gas.

What I've read is that the difference is loss of airbag function. If you run out of gas, your airbag still works.

If there are 32 fatalities, there must be many thousands of ignition switch opens. Most but not all people will be in relative safety due to driving situation, ability, or both.

[Kackikat]

I think this recall has to do with the new car government controlled way to shut off an engine, when a car is stolen, needs to be repossessed, or the police are after you. I believe it’s just the process gone wrong that causes this terrible safety issue.

GM got the bailout and has to do what the government wants with emissions and other controls.

[WayneS]

Can you please post some more info about the steering locking? The reports I have read mention only loss of power steering .

The switch would need to turn all the way back to the lock/remove position in order to lock the steering and I doubt that is happening no matter how cheesy the ignition switches are.

[Tucker39]

Thanks. You’re probably correct.

[Cboldt]

My impression is that the undesired open is a mechanical event. The external control of the vehicle is an electromagnetic process, either signaling the car to shut down, or overwhelming its circuits with EMP and causing the controls to go belly-up.

I question how terrible this is as a safety issue, but that's based on my impression that the engine stoppage is similar to running out of gas, and running out of gas is not seen as a massive safety issue.

Not to say uncommanded shutoff is okay, or never results in injury. There is a problem with the ignition control. I doubt, however, that it's as big a safety problem as the plaintiffs would have you think.

[Kackikat]

If you are passing a car on the internet and your car ran out of gas and you are going 70 mph (the speed limit) and there are cars behind you, how is that not a safety issue?

So, if this is tied to trying to make a car stop for police or part of a controlling device to stop the car and it malfunctions a problem that causes air bags not to work, and someone rear ends you, how is that not a safety issue?

Unbelievable! People have already died, how is that not a safety issue?

[Cboldt]

Do you view running out of gas as an event that is likely to result in death or serious injury?

[Kackikat]

Re read the post, I said if you run out of gas doing 70 mph on the interstate while passing another vehicle, and there are vehicles behind you doing that same mph, that presents a safety issue! Sheesh....reading comprehension is important.

[Cboldt]

I understood what you said. My direct question, which you have not answered, aimed to figure out whether we have a difference of opinion.