United, Delta and USAir suspend flights to Israel - UPDATE FAA BANS US FLIGHTS, EUROPEANS FOLLOW

Israel Matzav ^ | 7/22/14 | Carl in Jerusalem

[Political Junkie Too]

It’s more like not wanting another “Ukraine” ...

Or it's about legitimizing the shooting down of civilian airliners as a war tactic.

The world either flies and dares another nation to do it again under threat of extreme retaliation (think nuclear), or the world accepts the threat of airliner targeting and does nothing to stop it.

-PJ

[steve86]

I sense something big is going to happen in regards to cleaning out the rat’s nest called Gaza.

Almost sounds as though you support some kind of genocide against Palestinians. I know that isn't in Israel's plans.

[ConservativeMan55]

Carpet bomb the area, nuke it, make it glow. Whatever it takes.

[cynwoody]

it's to prevent another passenger jet from being blown out of the sky.

No it's not. It's an appeal to the irrationality of the low-information types.

There is no evidence Hamas has the type of rockets that can be used to shoot down airplanes. If they did, they'd have used them against Israeli military aircraft by now. If they did have MANPADs, they'd have to infiltrate Israel to get close enough to Ben Gurion to use them. Even if they had the system the Ukrainian rebels used to shoot down MH17, flights coming from the north would be out of range from Gaza.

[Sam's Army]

"Almost sounds as though you support some kind of genocide against Palestinians."

Didn't read that way to me.

[Biggirl]

No, get rid of the tunnels and the leadership.

[cuban leaf]

I sense something big is going to happen in regards to cleaning out the rat’s nest called Gaza.

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I agree. Political Correctness has outlived its usefulness there. Our 8th airforce killed a lot of “innocents” routing the Nazis. Looks like those not involved should go somewhere, anywhere, where there are no Hamas troops or weapons. But if they don’t, they might get hurt.

[cuban leaf]

This just gives Bibi a window to clean house in Gaza.

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It really does, doesn’t it?

[cuban leaf]

Sheesh, stop with that crap. Do a little research on air service into Israel over the past 20 years and you will see that what goes on in Gaza and Lebanon has not interrupted air service into Tel Aviv in the past. This is something different and it has nothing to do with SAMs.

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You are correct that “this is something different”. This is not another fizzle followed by worthless talks.

We are living in interesting times.

[GeronL]

bump

[Star Traveler]

I wouldn’t want to be on the team of lawyers defending an airline that did that with their passengers on board ... LOL ...

[Star Traveler]

You can dream away, but I can assure you that Israel won’t be doing that.

[steve86]

Good, that’s what you meant.

[Star Traveler]

If we’re talking about cleaning out Hamas and it’s operatives and their facilities, it’s not a problem and it’s completely in line with the policies and laws of Israel and how they operate.

If we’re talking about Palestinian civilians, then that is completely against the policies and laws (in their own country) that Israel abides by.

I take it to mean exclusively Hamas and the terrorist operatives and not the Palestinian civilians.

[Wyatt's Torch]

Sad isn’t it...

[SatinDoll]

Israel is a foreign nation.

The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a United States Navy technical research ship, USS Liberty, by Israeli Air Force jet fighter aircraft and Israeli Navy motor torpedo boats, on 8 June 1967, during the Six-Day War.[3] The combined air and sea attack killed 34 crew members (naval officers, seamen, two Marines, and one civilian), wounded 171 crew members, and severely damaged the ship.[4] At the time, the ship was in international waters north of the Sinai Peninsula, about 25.5 nmi (29.3 mi; 47.2 km) northwest from the Egyptian city of Arish.

Israel's priorities are those of a foreign nation and may not coincide with those of the U.S.

[Tzfat]

Strawman. What does the Liberty have to do with Israel and Gaza other than trying to make some anti-Israel point?

[Biggirl]

Got to remember that Hamas uses non-terrorists as human shields. Even Israel does a nocking warning before they shoot any missels to get the folks out.

[stuck_in_new_orleans]

No. These are companies worried about their planes being hit by missiles.

[Tzfat]

No. These are companies worried about their planes being hit by missiles.

No. If that were true then they would have stopped servicing Tel Aviv many times since 2006. Rockets from Gaza have gone north of Tel Aviv and Petah Tikvah - that is NORTH of Ben Gurion Airport. Regardless, there have been ZERO SAMS fired by Hamas.

Here is what likely happened. Last week Hamas threatened Ben Gurion airport. Nothing happened with the airlines. Now Hussein Obama is getting nervous about his Muslim Brotherhood buddies, Hamas - so he sends Kerry over to Cairo to put pressure on Israel. No doubt U.S. civil aviation authorities were told to start working on plans to shut down traffic to Tel Aviv. A rocket hits 5km from Ben Gurion (not much closer than Petah Tikvah last week), and Delta diverts. The FAA quickly seizes the opportunity to forbid exercising airman certificate and airframe certification in Israeli airspace (effectively shutting down traffic from the US, in a way that they otherwise could not).

It is 100% an Obama boycott of the State of Israel.