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Golden Rice: GMO "Super Gruel" for the Masses
Land Destroyer ^ | 7-16-2014

Posted on 07/19/2014 6:58:29 AM PDT by Renfield

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To: jjotto
I guess it's hopeless--a hysteria that just has to die of its own nonsense. You can point out the relative risks, the science, the easy way to avoid GMOs if you are really that afraid--

No matter how often you demonstrate that if you cut off the tail of a mouse, his offspring still have tails, you will still have to deal with those who insist that the offspring will be born without tails.

81 posted on 07/19/2014 12:52:17 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle

Yep. Unfortunately, a lot of weird ideas have become matters of religious faith, probably to replace the loss of actual religious faith.


82 posted on 07/19/2014 12:58:01 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Mamzelle

Yes I have no problem with most hybrids.

GMO is another story. I work with some leading genetic researchers in the cancer field. they admit they don’t know what a good portion of our DNA does. Nobody knows the DNA of plants and how mixing genes will impact humans.

As for protection of intellectual property. Thats fine protect your seeds. If you allow your plant to impact another property owner then you should lose control over your property and not gain control over theirs.


83 posted on 07/19/2014 2:16:37 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Mamzelle

“So a scientist has no claim on what his research produces?”

Depends on who pays for the research.

If your “research” goes haywire and screws up my property you should be held responsible.


84 posted on 07/19/2014 2:17:38 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Mamzelle

Ahh so someone who disagrees with you is a luddite and a simpleton.

Go F yourself


85 posted on 07/19/2014 2:18:33 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
There have been numerous suits already settled and farmers put out of business.

Name one case where Monsanto put a farmer out of business because Monsanto's patented product blew into that farmers field from another, or STHU.

I don't believe you have any idea what you're talking about. Do you have any proof to support your nonsense, or are you just spewing?

86 posted on 07/19/2014 3:08:53 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: driftdiver
What does it do when teh federal govt requires farmers markets to be registered and obtain a license?

A license for what? How and why did Monsanto force that license on anyone? Why would Monsanto give a rat's rear end what is sold in a some local farmer's market?

87 posted on 07/19/2014 3:12:51 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: driftdiver
Nobody knows the DNA of plants and how mixing genes will impact humans.

Yeah, right. Let's look at the record:

Every agricultural product I can think of has been genetically modified. Using a gene gun to create genetic modification simply gets you where you want to go faster, and more accurately, than with selective breeding methods. As a matter of fact, selecting just one gene to be modified is much less risky than utilizing hybridization, because you are not involving the other genes. With selective breeding, we are making all sorts of changes without really knowing, exactly, what the outcome will be.

Modern methods of bioengineering are much more effective for making specific alterations to a plant's DNA than via hybridization.

If you allow your plant to impact another property owner then you should lose control over your property and not gain control over theirs.

Still waiting for you to provide one example of where that occurred.

88 posted on 07/19/2014 3:40:47 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mamzelle; MrsEmmaPeel

Just for Ref:
http://www.gmo-compass.org/eng/grocery_shopping/crops/22.genetically_modified_wheat.html
“Right now ,no genetically modified wheat is being grown anywhere in the world.”


89 posted on 07/19/2014 3:43:09 PM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day.)
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To: Mase

As long as you’re doing creative writing why don’t you go for 1 trillion. Or maybe 1 quadrillion.


90 posted on 07/19/2014 3:43:24 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
Earlier, you took offense to being labeled a Luddite and a simpleton.

Why?

You labor long and hard here to remove any and all doubt. Only such a person would be completely ignorant of the Green Revolution. For someone who pretends to have some clue about what he speaks, you sure are clueless.

If you're going to make absurd claims on these threads, don't you think you should be able to offer something to back them up....anything at all?

91 posted on 07/19/2014 4:03:03 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase

http://www.dailytech.com/Monsanto+Defeats+Small+Farmers+in+Critical+Bioethics+Class+Action+Suit/article24118.htm

there are many articles on this. do your own research

Selective breeding is not GMO. That you use that in the argument shows your deep ignorance.


92 posted on 07/19/2014 4:11:38 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Mase

You GMO folks are just like the globull warming whackos.


93 posted on 07/19/2014 4:12:19 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
do your own research

Did you even bother to read the article you linked? That suit was thrown out of court. Did you read anything from the record?

The judge said:

She goes on to say this:

That link didn't work out very well for you. Would you like to try again?

Monsanto could never be as unethical or dishonest as the organic industry, or the even larger homeopathy and alternative medicine industry. But the anti-Monsanto scientific illiterates/Luddites here will blindly champion those groups.

Selective breeding is not GMO. That you use that in the argument shows your deep ignorance.

Selective breeding is not about genetic modification? In what world is that kind of stupidity considered intelligent? Read what I posted again. Modern methods of bioengineering simply get us where we want to go faster and more accurately than with hybridization. The fact that you don't recognize this as fact only proves that you are uniquely unqualified to be commenting on the subject.

94 posted on 07/19/2014 4:50:12 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: driftdiver
No, you scientific illiterates and food Luddites are just like the AGW crowd in that you deny reason and research. People who are against science and the future will invent all kinds of reasons to mask their true motivations, like being anti-capitalist, the precautionary principle, slippery slopes and the dumbest logical fallacy of them all: It can't be 'proven safe'.

You are no different than the evil morons at Greenpeace. You sit at home fat and happy, afraid of vitamin-fortified rice, while two million kids a year die because a bunch of crack pots crackpots refuse to learn elementary school biology, - it's shameful.

95 posted on 07/19/2014 5:02:59 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase

You use the same arguments and logic of the globull warming crackpots.


96 posted on 07/19/2014 5:06:11 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Mase

You must have been picked on as a kid.


97 posted on 07/19/2014 5:07:16 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Did you even graduate from high school?


98 posted on 07/19/2014 5:09:00 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: driftdiver
You use the same arguments and logic of the globull warming crackpots.

Wouldn't it be great if you could offer any evidence to support those lame assertions you were so certain about earlier?

You'd probably like a pony, too.

99 posted on 07/19/2014 5:10:52 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase

Yes and college and run my own successful business.

Which is why I don’t have time for fools, bye.


100 posted on 07/19/2014 5:11:02 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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