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Breaking: Bureau of Land Management Won’t Enforce Court Order Against Bundy Cows
PJ Tatler / The Associated Press ^ | April 12, 2014 | Rick Moran

Posted on 04/13/2014 2:31:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How come the governor of Nevada didn’t come to the defense or rescue of one of their citizens on this issue?


121 posted on 04/13/2014 4:49:00 PM PDT by Cyclone59 (Where are we going, and what's with the handbasket?)
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Question to ASPCA, is the Desert Tortoise or new born Calves more important than the other?
To PETA do you care that the calves are being orphan?
To the EPA, Get a clue!
To the BLM, you may want to put your employees on a exercise regime.
To the Bundy’s and followers, “Strive to Persevere”!


122 posted on 04/13/2014 4:51:45 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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To: GAFreedom

The Constitution wasn’t intended to ban every possible evil act a government could do.

“I live in the Managerial Age, in a world of “Admin.” The greatest evil is not now done in those sordid “dens of crime” that Dickens loved to paint. It is not done even in concentration camps and labour camps. In those we see its final result. But it is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voices. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern.”

C. S. Lewis, preface, “The Screwtape Letters.”


123 posted on 04/13/2014 4:53:46 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Paladin2

Neither am I. There is still something deeper and I am not sure what it is. Wish I had time and resources to delve deeper in case law. Court seems overly cautious to me. Like you can do it but its your baby. Maybe why they did not involves Marshall’s Service. Then it would still be on the courts plate. Like hot potato.


124 posted on 04/13/2014 5:00:22 PM PDT by DeWalt (Times are more like they used to be than they are today.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Except for those few that have been able to stay under the radar, they know exactly who we are and how many.

They just figured “we” were as unconnected as their supporters are and even knew this probably would not start R2. Internal polling had to show it would definitely stick in lots of folk’s craw come November, so time to pull back hard and hope we forget.

I will not be surprised the settlement the Clark County Sherriff worked out was for Bundy to pay a token amount of the leases, that way it allowed BLM to save some face, which they badly needed about that time.


125 posted on 04/13/2014 5:02:10 PM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Amendment10
Based on postings here, the Feds had the land before Nev. Statehood and got the State of Nevada to give it up as part of the negotiations in becoming a State (....and other valuable considerations...).

The citizenry had no direct input.

126 posted on 04/13/2014 5:10:52 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Cyclone59

I understand he sent a sternly worded letter to the BLM.


127 posted on 04/13/2014 5:18:14 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: crz

Rather Reid now. Don’t wait till fall to start the process. Get the word out starting immediately and keep hammering the point till he decides to spend more time with his family! Then tie it all in to Nan P’s hubby for round two


128 posted on 04/13/2014 5:18:24 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: DeWalt

Start by Looking into the relationship between Reid and the jurist. Then follow the trail


129 posted on 04/13/2014 5:22:17 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: hoosiermama

Yes. I have considered that. There is a fly in the soup for sure.
By the way, has the heroin situation come out as we predicted?


130 posted on 04/13/2014 5:27:15 PM PDT by DeWalt (Times are more like they used to be than they are today.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

To some the odds never mattered. The oath did. It’s “a patriot thing”.

Semper Fidelis


131 posted on 04/13/2014 5:30:28 PM PDT by chulaivn66 (Semper Fidelis)
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To: basil; Hildy

I think Hildy’s in the Laughlin neighborhood (Arizona, near Las Vegas).


132 posted on 04/13/2014 5:30:31 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: 353FMG

Don’t confuse my comment with trusting the feds. I’m just saying that had those cowboys moved that fence and peacefully moved towards the hired guns, I think some of the hired guns would have refused to go any further to stop the patriots. At least I hope it would have turned out that way.


133 posted on 04/13/2014 5:47:44 PM PDT by armydawg505
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To: DeWalt

Well Al sharpton was involved with drugs before he flipped and became an informat
JJ’s bro is in prison for life partly because of his large sale of the drug to an east coast informat. ( wonder if they were connected)

JJs bro is a Robinson and member of a black Muslim street gang who got their start thru a Mexican drug cartel and who were in cahoots with Kadaffi — gun running and domestic terrorism ala Bill Ayres The gang controlled the community that 0 organized.
Is this what your referring to?
So its just a matter of time till the MSM connect dots to why this administrations wants to keep the border open Unless the MSM is protecting their source ?/s.
BTW Russia is the final destination of 20-25% of the poppy product of Afganistan. The Crimea open a more direct route to Europe of a finished product by passing other processors.
Follow the drugs not the money! U heard it here first!


134 posted on 04/13/2014 5:54:28 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: GAFreedom; All
Well, the Feds are considered to be the clear owners of that land.

Thank you for your patience with this discusssion GAFreedom. Before I go any further, have you heard of the Resolution of 1780? You might be more familiar with it than I am.

135 posted on 04/13/2014 6:25:30 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: GAFreedom

Bundy relies on NRS 321.59 which has not been fully adjudicated

NRS 321.596 Legislative findings. The Legislature finds that:

1. The State of Nevada has a strong moral claim upon the public land retained by the Federal Government within Nevada’s borders because:

(a) On October 31, 1864, the Territory of Nevada was admitted to statehood on the condition that it forever disclaim all right and title to unappropriated public land within its boundaries;

(b) From 1850 to 1894, newly admitted states received 2 sections of each township for the benefit of common schools, which in Nevada amounted to 3.9 million acres;

(c) In 1880 Nevada agreed to exchange its 3.9-million-acre school grant for 2 million acres of its own selection from public land in Nevada held by the Federal Government;

(d) At the time the exchange was deemed necessary because of an immediate need for public school revenues and because the majority of the original federal land grant for common schools remained unsurveyed and unsold;

(e) Unlike certain other states, such as New Mexico, Nevada received no land grants from the Federal Government when Nevada was a territory;

(f) Nevada received no land grants for insane asylums, schools of mines, schools for the blind and deaf and dumb, normal schools, miners’ hospitals or a governor’s residence as did states such as New Mexico; and

(g) Nevada thus received the least amount of land, 2,572,478 acres, and the smallest percentage of its total area, 3.9 percent, of the land grant states in the Far West admitted after 1864, while states of comparable location and soil, namely Arizona, New Mexico and Utah, received approximately 11 percent of their total area in federal land grants.

2. The State of Nevada has a legal claim to the public land retained by the Federal Government within Nevada’s borders because:

(a) In the case of the State of Alabama, a renunciation of any claim to unappropriated lands similar to that contained in the ordinance adopted by the Nevada constitutional convention was held by the Supreme Court of the United States to be “void and inoperative” because it denied to Alabama “an equal footing with the original states” in Pollard v. Hagan, 44 U.S. (3 How.) 212 (1845);

(b) The State of Texas, when admitted to the Union in 1845, retained ownership of all unappropriated land within its borders, setting a further precedent which inured to the benefit of all states admitted later “on an equal footing”; and

(c) The Northwest Ordinance of 1787, adopted into the Constitution of the United States by the reference of Article VI to prior engagements of the Confederation, first proclaimed the “equal footing” doctrine, and the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, by which the territory including Nevada was acquired from Mexico and which is “the supreme law of the land” by virtue of Article VI, affirms it expressly as to the new states to be organized therein.

3. The exercise of broader control by the State of Nevada over the public lands within its borders would be of great public benefit because:

(a) Federal holdings in the State of Nevada constitute 86.7 percent of the area of the State, and in Esmeralda, Lincoln, Mineral, Nye and White Pine counties the Federal Government controls from 97 to 99 percent of the land;

(b) Federal jurisdiction over the public domain is shared among 17 federal agencies or departments which adds to problems of proper management of land and disrupts the normal relationship between a state, its residents and its property;

(c) None of the federal lands in Nevada are taxable and Federal Government activities are extensive and create a tax burden for the private property owners of Nevada who must meet the needs of children of Federal Government employees, as well as provide other public services;

(d) Under general land laws only 2.1 percent of federal lands in Nevada have moved from federal control to private ownership;

(e) Federal administration of the retained public lands, which are vital to the livestock and mining industries of the State and essential to meet the recreational and other various uses of its citizens, has been of uneven quality and sometimes arbitrary and capricious; and

(f) Federal administration of the retained public lands has not been consistent with the public interest of the people of Nevada because the Federal Government has used those lands for armament and nuclear testing thereby rendering many parts of the land unusable and unsuited for other uses and endangering the public health and welfare.

4. The intent of the framers of the Constitution of the United States was to guarantee to each of the states sovereignty over all matters within its boundaries except for those powers specifically granted to the United States as agent of the states.
5. The attempted imposition upon the State of Nevada by the Congress of the United States of a requirement in the enabling act that Nevada “disclaim all right and title to the unappropriated public lands lying within said territory,” as a condition precedent to acceptance of Nevada into the Union, was an act beyond the power of the Congress of the United States and is thus void.

6. The purported right of ownership and control of the public lands within the State of Nevada by the United States is without foundation and violates the clear intent of the Constitution of the United States.

7. The exercise of such dominion and control of the public lands within the State of Nevada by the United States works a severe, continuous and debilitating hardship upon the people of the State of Nevada.

(Added to NRS by 1979, 1362)

http://law.justia.com/codes/nevada/2010/title26/chapter321/nrs321-596.html


136 posted on 04/13/2014 8:03:24 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Jack Hydrazine

If say all those people advanced steadily, the BLM would have no choice but to fire or risk losing control of the weapons. This is what happens when you militarize the police. You might say they are all dressed up and with no where to go.

They are more suited to hunting people down individually in raids in the dark of night. Your dead or disappeared -no cameras and at most an “internal investigation” that will take weeks with the results published on page E-12.


137 posted on 04/13/2014 8:33:18 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Fitzy_888

5,000 people against the BLM at the scene is so unfair!/s


138 posted on 04/13/2014 8:39:52 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
I’ve never seen the Feds retreat so fast from anything! Why?

They were unable to control the narrative.

139 posted on 04/14/2014 1:07:36 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: blueplum

It’ll be nice when the collectivists are not allowed to be the story tellers within government.


140 posted on 04/14/2014 6:25:45 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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