Posted on 03/22/2014 2:58:38 AM PDT by No One Special
I don’t necessarily agree with Buchanan or Cohen, but I do not think we have a stake in the Ukraine, nor do I think we have any realistic cards we can play to change things.
It might have been different eight years ago, if we had moved closer to an actual military alliance back then, but even that is not very realistic.
At this point we just need to sit down and shut up because the only thin we are doing is making ourselves look even weaker by squawking about things we have no way to change.
Honestly don’t know what to think of Crimea / Ukraine thing.
What I do know is I respect Putin. I do NOT respect our POSOTUS. And neither does much of the world. He is a chamberlain (perhaps chamber-pot) amongst Churchills.
Putin filed it away that Obama was a worthless liar.
Apologists? We have a bunch of cheerleaders for Putin right here on good old FR.
Look at the problems of the world. Look at Kerry, Obama, Biden and the rest of the crew who represent US foreign policy. Other than promoting gay rights, sexual perversion and irresponsibility, what are they good for? What are they doing when faced with Putin and an aggressive Russia? ...Obama is an effeminate fairy whose thoughts on foreign policy and world peace were formulated while chooming with his faggoty, druggie friends. Biden and Kerry don’t know what their foreign policy visions are, or whether or not they have any, at least any that represent the best interests of the US. Forgive our obvious lack of confidence in the will and force of the US to prevail in a showdown over Crimea. Maybe if Crimea could become a gay thing....
I don’t necessarily thing most are “cheerleaders” per say for the man and his politics but rather the is someone in this world with a bully pulpit of his own who knows how to use it and the prevailing social and geopolitical issues to make the Post Turtle visible as to what he is.
Our media won’t do their constitutional responsibility in exchange for their freedoms. Putin is smart enough to play the game with the tact of what the press should be doing and the “most” are cheering that. “Somebody has to do it” and Putin is using it totally to his benefit to minimize Obama, granted it is not tough to do if people are honest.
This is also a war between the sexes. A feminized US culture vs. a masculine Russia. Rush’s parody “Come Back Barry When You Grow Some” sums it up perfectly.
Did the author say when he was planning to volunteer for the Ukrainian army?
With Obama, a weakened wimp, known the world over, Putin is fully aware that he has a three year window to expand the Russian empire. He’s started with Crimea, then Ukraine. He has eyes on Estonia, Latvia, and many of the countries that were formerly in the Soviet Union before being brought down by Reagan. The line will have to drawn at some point. Reducing our nuclear capabilities and armed forces to 1940 levels is insanity.
Does he not have a point?
Not on this, because Americans voted for this, twice.
Then, there is the Fred Phelps wing that thinks its the governments job to harass gays. And since Putin's good at that they admire him. Now, most conservatives are way past disgusted with the US governments pro-gay policy, so it's easy to see why Putin not being PC on gays appeals to the Fred Phelps types.
Then, there are the old school "blame America Firsters' of the Left. Their arguments have bled over to some on the right. It used to be the old right thought American was too good to involve itself with the wretched old world. Now, even on the right there are those who say America simply isn't good enough to criticize Putin or his bullying. Unless we're perfect with no abortions and no gays, we' should never criticize Putin.
Some, too, believe that Putin is leading the world towards a conservative utopia. But this is like believing if you give an autocrat enough unlimited power he'll create perfect equality. You cannot get equality with unlimited power and you won't get a conservative utopia either.
It's too much power that is the problem with Putin. It's that he doesn't follow the rule of law that makes him a threat to his own people and now to that of his neighbors.
There are those who think as long as we have Bozo as president it's okay for Putin to send troops to Crimea in their unmarked uniforms. Apparently, these people are so mad at America that they believe the world must be punished too for the USA having a weakling in the oval office.
And? The author attacks Buchanan but offers no explanation or argument to refute Buchanan's statements.
Once again, leftists like Stephen Cohen join with paleoconservatives like Pat Buchanan in opposing a stand for democracy, and in charging critics of Putin with unfairly and aggressively opposing Putin's supposed just and necessary policies.
Who is standing for democracy? Certainly not Obama. Or, actually Obama and his ilk want a true democracy. That's their plan to create a progressive utopia.
Crimea had a vote. Russia won. Regardless of what we think of the vote and the result the people of Crimea want to be under Russia's aegis. Is that not democracy?
Finally, is this author willing to send his sons to stop Putin? I am not. Putin is handling the muslim thing in his sphere of influence while we allow muslims to wreak havoc on Western Civilization. For that alone I respect Putin.
Those on the board who think we should attack Russia, or in some other way stop her, please tell us how you would? Does anyone here see any way to change the course Putin's taking? I don't.
We need to use the energy weapon against Russia and thereby undercutting the profits Russia makes and uses to support it’s aggression. Doing so creates jobs here. Honoring the request from Ukraine for small arms, rifles, to equip the men newly inducted into the army would go a long way to shoring up Ukraine. They will defend themselves. They aren’t asking for our boots on the ground in their country.
I don’t want Obama to do a damn thing because I have zero confidence that he has America’s best interests in mind.
The man has done nothing but sow chaos at home and abroad that has only harmed us. I don’t believe it was done out of stupidity.
Rock-smashingly stupid.
If Putin’s goal was to control all of the Ukraine, he would not want Crimea to secede, just like a Republican wouldn’t want Texas to secede if he wanted to win a presidential election in the U.S.
Crimea was always Russia. They seceded separately from the Ukraine, and joined the Ukraine on the agreement that they could be autonomous and pursue their own relationships. The Ukraine unilaterally rescinded that autonomy, something they had no right to do.
You’d better believe a LOT of the left’s hatred for Putin *is* a gay thing.
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