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Who Will Stop Putin's Aggression
3/9/2014 | Digest

Posted on 03/09/2014 12:24:55 PM PDT by annalex

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To: RedwM
Stalin did not have nuclear weapon capabilities that Putin has.

the whole thing has been over-sensationalized

This is quite without precedent. It concerns us little, but from the international geopolitical perspective this is as bad as any Cold War crises and it is not over yet. For example, Putin's aggression destroyed the collective security guarantees that, we thought, marked the end of the Cold War.

to make Obama look like a great statesman

Obama looks terrible in this; I don't know where you are getting this.

61 posted on 03/09/2014 6:35:49 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: grumpygresh
The Ukraine will essentially lose sovereignty if it joins the EU

Ukraine is a sovereign country that can opt to join whatever organizations it wishes. Here's the stark contrast between the EU and the USSR: EU has no army to occupy its neighbors' territory. RF has, and just did.

62 posted on 03/09/2014 6:37:45 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: Savage Beast

You can call me Alex. Ann, my wife, doesn’t post here.

I agree that we are at our, possibly, weakest point militarily, but since neither side wants a shooting war, it is beside the point. I think Putin miscalculated the strength of the Western institutions that go by precedents, laws, treaties, and won’t let him get away with military aggression. He will get a Second Cold War out of this. That, I think did not enter his plans.


63 posted on 03/09/2014 6:41:59 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: stevem
Obama’s aggression against the United States?

That, indeed, is a valid concern, but this thread has very little to do with Obama. I wish our president a good tan.

64 posted on 03/09/2014 6:43:06 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

Iceland?


65 posted on 03/09/2014 7:44:45 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ("There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: annalex
Okay, Alex.

I think the West is weak militarily, economically, and in almost every way because it is decadent. Western Civilization has lost confidence in itself, and millions think it has nothing to offer. This results from all the wars, the racism, the problems that Western Civilization has not, so far, been able to solve. Western European nations, for example, cannot even muster the energy or the will to survive.

I don't know whether Putin understands this or not, but he doesn't care.

He knows the West is weak.

He calculates that he can bully Western leaders.

And he's right.

Putin's not concerned about "Global Warming" or endangered species. Neither are the Chi-coms.

66 posted on 03/09/2014 8:13:29 PM PDT by Savage Beast (Hubris and denial overwhelm Western Civilization. Nemesis and tragedy always follow.)
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To: annalex

You mean like when the US invaded Iraq?


67 posted on 03/09/2014 11:09:48 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Savage Beast

Weak or not, — all that is relative, — the post-Soviet world remains a parasite on the Western Civilization’s body. The moment the West closes the pipe with the visas, high tech products and, simply, food, whatever it is that Putin think he has collapses. His own buddies will shoot him and that will be the end of his Crimea conquest.


68 posted on 03/10/2014 4:57:16 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Well, in retrospect at least, yes. However Iraq in 2003 was seen as a military threat; Ukraine isn’t a military threat to Russia by any stretch.


69 posted on 03/10/2014 4:59:28 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex
We'll see.

However, if the West remains weak and continues to sink into decadence, another tyrant will come to take his place.

70 posted on 03/10/2014 6:35:28 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Hubris and denial overwhelm Western Civilization. Nemesis and tragedy always follow.)
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To: annalex; nuconvert; SunkenCiv; Tailgunner Joe
Perhaps ridicule:

Here´s Vladimir Putin´s Facebook Movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR1PA0SDNzA

Hitler Phones Putin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji6DFOwjqeE

Hitler interviews Vladimir Putin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBO79-_SBrQ

Hitler finds out about Russian Elections
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWMYVZosvRY

71 posted on 03/10/2014 12:51:56 PM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: Savage Beast

Yes.


72 posted on 03/10/2014 6:21:51 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: AdmSmith

These are hilarious, thanks.


73 posted on 03/10/2014 6:31:26 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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