Glock
Posted on 03/06/2014 4:14:16 AM PST by servo1969
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Better than half the time, officers should have been shooting nonlethal rounds of some sort anyways. Every officer in the country should be issued a taser. It should be standard practice that when they engage ANYone of suspicion, the taser is already pointed at the person making them “feel” threatened or even stupid. Far, far fewer people would die if this were implemented.
There are also more than a few concealed carry civilians who put an NY1 or NY2 trigger spring in their carry Glocks. (I, fortunately, am not one.)
Spray and Pray.
5.56mm
The NY 1 with the Minus connector creates a fairly smooth 6 pound pull, and it is an approved configuration by Glock
I have fired the NY 2 and it is a nasty bear. You can get used to it, but it takes focus and practice, and as the author says-cops are not necessarily gun people
On the devils advocate side, the revolvers that most Glocks replaced on PDs had usually 12 pound and higher double action pulls
If they’d read this book, they’ll find it’s probably not a marksmanship problem. It’s a training problem. Instead of shooting at the target the officers are employing “display behavior.” Shooting wide of the target is like two cats puffing up trying to intimidate rather than fight. (This display behavior is what GWB did so well that we never had a problem with Putin or China on his watch.)
I do believe the 12 pound triggers became “mandatory” because the NYPD had a string of accidental discharges injuring themselves. So in typical liberal fashion they work on the wrong problem.
God help the bystanders if they ever allow anything other than double action only however.
Dad who was NYPD from ‘46 - 68 told me a few interesting cop storied.
they carried revolvers back then. though both single and double action it was considered ‘execution’ if you cocked back the hammer first(that rule change was during dads term as a patrolman). dad told me about an “Old Irish Cop” who once held a perp till the wagon arrived. he had cocked his revolver(don’t know if it was before or after the aforementioned rule was implimented). once the perp was being transferred he moseyed over to a garbage can and fired the round under the hammer into the pail. It seems he did not know how to lower the hammer gently down once it was cocked.
when dad started, “stop or I’ll shoot” was allowed if you spoke those words loudly at fleeing felons, by the end of his tenure he kept a printed copy of ‘Miranda warning’ in his hat.
things change...sometimes for the better...sometimes not.
none of my handguns would pass NYPD muster.
the worst (or best) is my Colt SAA second generation 125th anniversary commemorative(made in 1961) that should have remained unfired in its display case but my friend who picked it up used at the gun store she worked in got it sans case and it had been fired.
this thing will fire if you look at it funny. you had better be dead on target before you reach for the trigger. it is that light. let my son shoot it. he fired over the berm as he did not take my word that the trigger was REAL LIGHT(luckily the other side of the berm is pine barrens for miles).
never measured the pull....but it is in ounces....
Sorry, but I’m not feeling for them. Good info, though. I recommend 12lb pull for all LEO. It’s for the children, you know.
NY—both city and state, HATES ALL GUNS with a purple passion.
These guns are nearly impossible to shoot accurately and quickly at any reasonable distance.
It’s the POLICY, stupid.
We dropped the 12 pound when the Chief that ordered it left.
A couple others and I carry stock trigger 1911s of various makes for duty weapons. The rest carry Stock trigger Glocks
ping for later
Twelve pound trigger’s aren’t enough, police should at all times have their blinky lights on, and be clothed in only their underwear and flip flops.
“fired a total of seven shots and entirely missed the criminal”
So what, that’s no big deal. Usually it’s 20-30 rounds fired
with no hits. I think the national average is 35 miss to
1 hit. They have no excuse, at least at the federal level,
they have plenty of ammo for target practice.
I guess every body who shoot well with a double action revolver double action should not be able hit any thing.
Seems a simply solution would be to use a DA/SA pistol instead of DA only
First shot could be 12 lbs and guard against accidental discharge. Any additional shooting would be SA with increased accuracy
Ping for reference.
Hey, since we’re on the subject… can anyone tell me how to keep from pushing the muzzle slightly to the left when pulling the trigger?
Being right handed, I’ve noticed that I have a tendency to shoot at the left of center – does anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this issue?
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