The Mark of the Beast and the Demise of the New World Order

A Rood Awakening ^ | 31 January 2014 | Michael Rood

[Iscool]

If you view what appears to be a conflict between Paul’s teachings, and you are aware that an apostle of Yeshua was not a fool nor a liar, then it becomes imperative to examine his epistles in light of what Yeshua told us, since nothing Paul would have said would be in conflict therewith.

So we should then take your approach and black out or just not mention those scriptures, like the Catholics do...

[caww]

We serve as Christians the risen Christ....HE alone is sufficient just as HE says that HE is.

All the gobbled goop Rood and his followers spreads is an entrapment to hold down the work God intends otherwise for those who have fallen in that deep hole. Jesus said...

[Iscool]

Yeshua and all of his apostles were very much Jews, and all that Yeshua presented to us is from the ancient Hebrew scriptures. Worship as defined by Yeshua is the very same that he delivered at Mt. Sinai to Moses. He said that it was to continue until all things are finished, so we have at least another thousand years of it to go.

There is a little area in there that wasn't revealed to those Jews referred to as the church age...They were looking at the coming of the Messiah and into the thousand year Millennial reign of the King on Earth...

Those people are blinded to the church age so what was said and applies to them is true...

[caww]

......”I thought advertising wasn’t allowed here.”.......

Me too, but apparently ‘not currently’ on this thread....maybe we’re suppose to see this like when the monitors let us play with the trolls for awhile? Just to keep us all in good form! LOL

[metmom]

A disclaimer.

How sweet.

So why would anyone want to follow someone who has been so consistently wrong.

All he’s proved is his INABILITY to correctly discern God’s word.

[Iscool]

First, I didn’t say he eliminated anything, he called them out.

Here it is...

The issues of greatest importance were illustrated in the gospels through Yeshua’s miracles, each of which was designed to highlight one of the Pharisee’s tyrannical rules. His first miracle was to demolish “The washing of the hands.”

Demolished??? Called them out??? Whatever you say...

[caww]

Your quote..."the kindle version goes for $39.99"....

Looks like Roods bait and switch is profitable....just as I said.....give a few things away for free (bait) then make them pay for more or die!(Switch)

So Michael Roods....rolling in the dough! How soon before you tell us he gives all his money away and lives the life of a pauper?

Hey!.....just $39.99 will reveal to all the uninformed what God has kept from mankind because God was waiting to release it through Michael Roods....and here he is delivering his message to the uninformed...

[caww]

You stated..."Worship as defined by Yeshua is the very same that he delivered at Mt. Sinai to Moses."

Jesus did this to the Law of Moses....

[INVAR]

I normally would prefer to stay out of these kinds of endless theological arguments that accomplish NOTHING but division - despite the justification that it somehow keeps the faith "true".

This statement however, raised my eyebrows and perhaps this is what is at the crux and heart of this entire argument:

Jesus Himself used the Old Testament to prove that He was indeed the Christ, who had come to put an end to the curse which the Law had placed over men.

I do not understand this interpretation. That somehow The Law itself was a curse placed on mankind. I cannot find that interpretation anywhere in scripture.The only place I find it is in the doctrines of various denominations.

Instead I find the curse OF the Law being the transgression of the Law, placed on men BY THEIR OWN SINS.

If murder is a sin, and therefore part of the Law of God - it existed BEFORE Sinai which we are told is what was 'nailed to the cross'.

If Abel's blood cried out to The Lord, then what was done there in Genesis WAS the transgression of God's Law which had to be ALREADY implemented for the sin of murder to be imparted to Cain.

Did God curse Adam and Eve by placing His Law on them? I don't read that interpretation in scripture. Only in tradition. The Law of God is liberty, liberty from the consequences and curses of violating The Law.

From what I can glean from scripture, God did not place the Law on mankind as a curse. The Law defines for us what Sin is. Without the Law we would have no knowledge of sin, nor any idea what to repent of. Breaking The Law was and is the curse - because the Law demands death for transgressing His Law.

I can find nowhere in scripture in the context it is being presented that we are 'free from the Law of God' - meaning we are free to break it without consequence.

If the Law is done away with, nailed to the cross - can we murder, steal, lie and covet now that we claim Christ? Should we sin that Grace may abound?

I find we are free from the penalty that God's Law Requires when we transgress it and repent through Christ.

Since Christ is the perfect Passover sacrifice, there is no longer a need for the sacrificial system for sanctification which Christ fulfilled in total.

My understanding is that is what has been nailed to the Cross - is both the inferior sacrificial system (which still pointed to Christ BTW), and the wages we earn from sin, which is death.

God's Law defines sin. The Sacrificial system detailed what was required in order to have a relationship with God, who is without sin and has no part of sin. Even that aspect of The Law has not been done away with. Christ became the sacrificial system, which was only a foreshadow of Himself to begin with. There was no salvation from the penalty of death to eternal life in the blood of bulls and goats. There is only Salvation to Life in Christ's blood and sacrifice.

If the death angel spared the Hebrews under the blood of a lamb, how much more are we spared eternal death by being under the blood of THE LAMB?

God's Law is still there from what I can understand. Not one jot or tittle diminished, for the Kingdom of God is not yet come in full. Death and tears still remain. Until those are wiped away - all is not yet fulfilled. At least that is what I understand and hold to.

[CynicalBear]

>> can we murder, steal, lie and covet now that we claim Christ? Should we sin that Grace may abound?<<

I don’t even have to ask if you are Catholic after that question. So far the only people who ask that question are Catholics. It’s been answered so many times on these threads I won’t take the time.

[editor-surveyor]

No, Yeshua promised that he would not do that:

Matthew 5:

[17] Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
[18] For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
[19] Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called greatin the kingdom of heaven.
[20] For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

So, as usual, you have no idea what Yehova's word says.

You spew your hatred of all who post his word, out of fear of where your false gospel might be leading you.

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[editor-surveyor]

>> “So why would anyone want to follow someone who has been so consistently wrong.” <<

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He has been consistently correct, that is why he has a following of millions.

The one time he had anything wrong, he had the day of the month exactly correct, but had misunderstood how to count the year and missed by one year. That is amazing accuracy, not error. Who has ever had a prophetic date in any way correct? And he recognized in advance that there was a chance he had a miscalculation and said so.

You have no respect for those that the Holy Spirit is using to break Satan’s Churchianity movement and call his sheep to the true fold.

[INVAR]

I don’t even have to ask if you are Catholic after that question. So far the only people who ask that question are Catholics

So I take it then that you do not consider Catholics to be Christians and therefore God does not work with them or grant them access to His Spirit?

Ultimately I guess this thread is become the usual argument of whom is Christian and whom is not based on what they understand and/or practice.

And no, I'm not Catholic - yet I asked the question anyway.

Many assumptions being made by my observation.

[editor-surveyor]

Do you want to understand the Takanot and Ma’assim or not?

You ask questions to direct Yeshua’s sheep away from his word?

I tried to give you a chance to come to understanding of what your confusion had you believing was a contradiction in his word.

[Iscool]

If the Law is done away with, nailed to the cross - can we murder, steal, lie and covet now that we claim Christ?

Yep...

Should we sin that Grace may abound?

Nope...

I find we are free from the penalty that God's Law Requires when we transgress it and repent through Christ.

That's just another way of agreeing with the question that was asked...

What escapes many people is that we all sin willfully every day...

Another thing that escapes people is that while we can break the law and not go to hell, we don't want to break the law...

You people seem to have the weird notion that if we can do those things that break the law and get away with it that we are chomping at the bit to get out there and lie, cheat and steal...

Perhaps that's what you would do if the Law wasn't restraining you??? It's not fear that keeps us from sinning, it's love...

[INVAR]

If the Law is done away with, nailed to the cross - can we murder, steal, lie and covet now that we claim Christ?

Yep…

That explains much.

I do not subscribe to the once-saved-always-saved no-matter-what- I-do doctrine.

I do not subscribe to a passive walk with Christ that automatically absolves me from my sins without repentance.

[editor-surveyor]

>> “There is a little area in there that wasn’t revealed to those Jews referred to as the church age” <<

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So much confusion!

Yeshua and his Disciples were not in the dark on anything.

There is no “Church age,” that is a twisting of the Mystery of the Bride, his Congregation, not “church,” as presented by Paul in Romans 7. The mystery of how Yeshua was to re-marry his divorced bride, as prophesied in Hosea, and Paul revealed that his death freed his bride to re-marry without breaking Torah.

As Yeshua stated in Matthew 15:24, his bride that he was sent to is “The Lost Sheep of the House of Israel.”

The elect were not blinded, they were returning to him by the millions, until Constantine’s persecution began.

Judah is still looking for their King to come, and the next time he will indeed come as King rather than as the “suffering Servant he came as when he was born.

You apparently do not grasp the difference between “The House of Judah,” and Israel. Judah still holds the Scepter, as prophesied by Jacob on his death bed. Ephraim and Manasseh are the Great Nations on Earth, of that same prophecy.

[editor-surveyor]

>> “So we should then take your approach and black out or just not mention those scriptures, like the Catholics do” <<

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Your approach!

You wish to black out what you don’t understand.

Your lack of understanding of the difference between the Takanot and Ma’assim of the Pharisees and Yehova’s perfect Torah has you blacking out all that Yeshua demanded that you follow.

And you seem to do it without even a twinge of guilt, throwing every word Yeshua spoke in the trash to grasp for your imaginary magical do-nothing ‘salvation.’
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[CynicalBear]

>> The mystery of how Yeshua was to re-marry his divorced bride, as prophesied in Hosea<<

Wasn’t much of a mystery if it was prophesied was it. LOL

[Iscool]

Do you want to understand the Takanot and Ma’assim or not?

Already understand it...That's why I can disagree with you...