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Vast Stretches Of Impoverished Appalachia Look Like They Have Been Through A War
The Economic Collapse blog ^ | January 15, 2014 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 01/16/2014 10:49:09 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And central California looks like a 3rd world country..


61 posted on 01/17/2014 10:59:02 AM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Yes, I worked for several years at the unemployment office in Centerville and was in charge of Appanoose and Wayne counties for the welfare-to-work program. Got to know Rep. Jim Leach (RINO-IA) while I was there.


62 posted on 01/17/2014 11:02:35 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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To: PastorBooks

>>There is one little town in Arkansas that I know of, population in the mid-800s.<<

Why the reluctance to name the town?


63 posted on 01/17/2014 11:50:12 AM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: PastorBooks
I think its nation wide.....country kids do not want to move to the city and want to stay with their own people....they love hunting, fishing, drinking, duck dynasty, race cars, motorcyles, and drugs....of course there are few jobs...so they get on some kind of govt assistance...

I'm sure its a growing trend in a lot of white American in the hinterlands....

thats why when people talk about moving to little obscure places in the country for safety if SHTF, I'm not sure its a good move....farther out suburbs of medium sized towns would be a better bet...

64 posted on 01/17/2014 1:21:39 PM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: cherry

You’ve identified a fast growing segment of the entitlement army. And why Democrats will continue to rack up victories.


65 posted on 01/17/2014 1:24:44 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: B4Ranch

“Why the reluctance to name the town?”

I am reluctant to name the town because my comment might come up in someone’s Google search. I’m hoping some business will move there and bring in some jobs. If someone were to search for the name of the town and read my comment, they might decide otherwise.


66 posted on 01/17/2014 2:38:49 PM PST by PastorBooks
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy
You hit the nail on the head. East Tennessee, Kentucky, and Carolina's are a great place for companies to move into and they indeed are doing just that. No Unions and a strong work ethic is why along with in Tennessee's case no state income taxes. I read the article and it reminds me of the comments made by FDR and LIARS about this region to so called save us from ourselves.

I've been to 48 of the 50 states and to over seven countries. I've seen poverty in the USA and in third world nations as well. It exist in places everywhere. I can go up the road and find it if I look or I can go to New Jersey and find it. In that respect Appalachia is no different. My family settled in East Tennessee in the mid to late 1700's. They built the first paper mill east of the Blue Ridge Mountains and established the first paper in the state.

My dad grew up in the poorest parts of Knoxville at the time yet they had all meals and needs provided for by his dad who during the Dpression worked as a night Supervisor over janitors in a then popular downtown Knoxville resturant.

My mom grew up on farms the same thing. Grandad ran a saw mill and farmed. One friend of dads grew up on a farm about 40 miles east of Knoxville. That guys dad in one year made a profit of $.25. But his family was clothed, fed well, loved, and knew the love and fear of GOD and still do even in their now fisical sucesses.

My wife's family was a little bit more prominent. The Historical Markers at the Sevier County Court House tell of them. Sevier County is where Pigeon Forge and Gatlinburg are located. Her grandfather many generations back founded and named Sevierville for John Sevier whom he established the region for.

I will say this as well. If a Hillbilly or Redneck sees you or your wife broke down on the side of the road they are likely to at least offer help or call someone for you or her. If you are getting physically beaten up or robbed in public by thugs intervention will most likely happen. Folk just don't walk on by looking the other way as they do in other places of the so called civilized cities. I've seen teens at a local mall hanging out start to run toward a stupid 50 something year old jerk racing his engine at my wife crossing in front of him in her wheelchair in the parking lot.

I hear the words Sir, Mam, and Thank You, in the stores I shop at not by just the employees but by customers yes even at Wally World. We do have some issues common to every state and almost every county USA likely no more or less. Thanks to Liberals we have a huge menace raising our crime stats called illegal aliens.

I've lived in a 100 year old cabin one half log the other newer part wood frame house that would make Green Acres house look good. I moved in it with my first wife on family land. Years later I still live on same land in a double wide with a view many persons pay big dollars for. My front windows face the Cumberlands. My property line at the top of the ridge looks out toward the other side of the Tennessee Valley and I can see The Great Smokies on about any day.

I love the region I live in. No matter what I will by choice and with pride live in Appalachia :>}

67 posted on 01/17/2014 3:47:06 PM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: PastorBooks
My first wife grew up in rural Virginia about an hour from Roanoke in Giles County. Economy there seemed to be OK when we went up to visit her uncles and grandmother. No more social problems there than anywhere. I loved the area.

My second wife spent part of her childhood in Desha County, Arkansas in a small town called McGhee. It was basically a railroad switch and her grandmother owned a rooming house the railroad workers stayed in. Back in the 1950's rail crews would be there through the week then go home. Most of the people worked I think to a town north of there called Stuttgart {sp} that had a paper mill. They got by OK.

In the 1990's my cousin lived in Camden Arkansas and worked as an Emergency Management Instructor for the state. He trained fire departments in the rural areas. He was telling my wife some places were pretty dismal and that was from a man who grew up poor himself in Tennessee. His dad was a machinist and when my cousin was in his teens they finally moved to Atlanta for my uncle to work at the plane factories. Today Machinist can find work in East Tennessee.

I'm not sure about Arkansas's economic downturn. In the 50's and 60's McGhee even though a small town had two lumber yards. My wife moved back to Tennessee because her grandmother sold the rooming house and moved back.

I'd say access to major roads has more to do with economics that anything in rural areas. The railways decreased so did the economies. Build a road trucks can travel on even an hours drive away from the interstates and if the conditions such as tax rate, industry friendly state and local government, are there business will show up.

In East Tennessee two prominent politicians came from a very remote county and went to school together. The late Senator Howard Baker and late congressman Congressman John J Duncan Sr.

68 posted on 01/17/2014 4:56:45 PM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: B4Ranch

Thank you for you intelligent reply.


69 posted on 01/17/2014 8:03:16 PM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: cva66snipe

Good couple of posts!

Like you, I do prefer rural areas. They are sure prettier!


70 posted on 01/17/2014 8:06:32 PM PST by PastorBooks
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

How about the Bristol-Kingsport-Johnson City area? How is that area doing?


71 posted on 01/17/2014 9:18:51 PM PST by yorkiemom
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To: cva66snipe

Sounds lovely. How about the Bristol-Kingsport-Johnson City area?


72 posted on 01/17/2014 9:52:02 PM PST by yorkiemom
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To: yorkiemom
For tax purposes I'd go with the Tennessee side of Bristol. Virginia does have an income tax plus IIRC a state vehicle inspection fee. I haven't been up that way in a few years but there's lots of good rural areas if you want that or the Tri-cities as well. Tennessee also so far has not had the hard recession impact other states have had. I'm about a 120 mile drive from there north of Knoxville.

Tennessee from about Crossville eastward is largely conservative with some DEM strong hold pockets. But I think all congresscritters east of Crossville are GOP and state wise they hold a solid majority in both houses of the General Assembly. The worse part is our two RINO US Senators.

73 posted on 01/17/2014 10:05:44 PM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Say what you will of Gov. Perry, but we have new businesses and jobs every day, all over.”

I don’t doubt it, but they can’t make up for the losses in other states. There is a migration of people, jobs, and businesses out of the colder regions of this country that will go on for decades; taxes are determining in which warmer climate they settle, but they are definitely leaving the north. North Dakota’s boom is small in comparison & temporary.


74 posted on 01/18/2014 11:16:17 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: PastorBooks

Thank you for you intelligent reply.


75 posted on 01/18/2014 12:35:37 PM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3110938/posts

Sorry, it was a different article (and title).

76 posted on 01/19/2014 8:00:55 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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