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Vast Stretches Of Impoverished Appalachia Look Like They Have Been Through A War
The Economic Collapse blog ^ | January 15, 2014 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 01/16/2014 10:49:09 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet
runs a program for those addicted to prescription pills. It also handles what in the local vernacular is known as “the crazy check” -- payments obtained for mental illness from Medicaid or SSI -- a vital source of income for those whose five years of welfare payments have run out. Doctors willing to diagnose a patient as mentally ill are important to economic survival.

Does that mean they can't have guns? That would make them easier to control than they had been in the past, no?

41 posted on 01/17/2014 5:35:40 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bttt for later reading.

What a sad situation.


42 posted on 01/17/2014 5:37:39 AM PST by proud American in Canada (R.I.P., James Helmuth, my nephew who passed away at ten years old, from cancer, on March 23.)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy
I have a suspicion that because this is the heart of the Bible Belt, many in the government would love to see these towns fail and the people either be hushed (deemed inbred stupid hill billies) or dispersed in order to break up the strong Christian culture that is there now.

You have a point. Another goal is to herd them all into the metropolitan areas where they can be more easily controlled, divested of their firearms, and access even more government services that hook them on dependency.

With generational poverty, it's hard to discern what is the chicken and what is the egg.

In the Native American areas in the west (I'm most familiar with the Cherokee in OK), there are generations of drug and alcohol dependency, broken families, illiteracy/lack of education, and domestic abuse.)

Naturally, these folks are very poor. Smart high school kids are heavily courted and fought over by colleges and universities. They'd have a free ride to about any institution of higher learning they would choose. But only a few are able to break the ties that bind them to that area, even though the opportunities for upward mobility are there.

43 posted on 01/17/2014 5:39:03 AM PST by randita
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They have been through a war - Obama’s war on coal.


44 posted on 01/17/2014 5:45:58 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Timber Rattler

This pile of crap article was posted a week ago and taken apart then. The author apparently believes that the problem with Appalachia is not enough Walmarts and Applebees (seriously).


45 posted on 01/17/2014 5:46:55 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: SeminoleCounty
"Free Trade Stupidity, along with other Liberal stupidity, kills Appalachia. If you can ship a factory to Communist China...you can ship it to Appalachia"

That sentence makes zero sense. Free trade is not "liberal". Appalachia did get more manufacturing that China did not get, but China has a billion more poor people willing to take $2 a day in wages that Appalachia does not have.

46 posted on 01/17/2014 5:53:24 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy
Take a vacation to Asheville (for example) and I guarantee that you will fall in love with the mountains and the people.

Asheville is moonbat central, but for the most part the moonbats are harmless.

47 posted on 01/17/2014 5:54:51 AM PST by bkepley
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To: randita
only a few are able to break the ties that bind them to that area, even though the opportunities for upward mobility are there.

Having moved to Appalachia I am glad for the opportunities for downward mobility that it gives me. For example, I can go sit on my friends porch in town, drink a beer and talk about things that matter.

48 posted on 01/17/2014 5:57:57 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

Southern Iowa was once a coal mining center but when the RRs switched to diesel and most homes went to propane, the mines closed.

Most of the sons and daughters moved away for better jobs and opportunities, leaving behind many who had no interest in bettering themselves.


49 posted on 01/17/2014 6:00:24 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: SeminoleCounty

Then find out why those factories are not being shipped to Appalachia. There is a reason! Fix the problem already.


50 posted on 01/17/2014 6:04:00 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: SeminoleCounty
They all support Free Trade

Would our states benefit economically by being able to impose tariffs against other states?

If not, why would countries, in aggregate, be harmed by free trade?

Milton Friedman, the master of economic common sense, was a strong advocate of free trade. The only objection that he took seriously was the military one --the potential loss of war-making materiel. But he proposed ways of mitigating these risks.

51 posted on 01/17/2014 6:04:12 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy
I am from Appalachia and Asheville, NC is a hippy-infested, liberal hellhole that should be firebombed from space. The great thing about sky is falling propaganda like this is that it should keep a few more liberals from moving to these beautiful parts of the country and messing everything up for the worse.
52 posted on 01/17/2014 6:52:43 AM PST by ohioman
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To: PastorBooks

Not as bad in NW Arkansas. But then we have WALMART, the chicken men, and trucking companies. Business here is booming.

Jasper County is bad from what I’ve read. Poorest county in the state. Don’t know about the flatlanders in E-SE Arkansas as I’ve rarely gotten out of NW Ark except to go to Oklahoma and west of there quite a bit.

You would be shocked at the number of families in this rich county with grown adult children living at home, who claim they can’t work because they are “bipolar”. The entire family is on welfare because of it.


53 posted on 01/17/2014 7:29:26 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: randita

The casinos near here are bringing in lots of money. Our local one over the line in OK hires ONLY people of Cherokee linage, so they say.

http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Casinos_Tribes.asp

Many years ago back in the early 1960s I was at a junk store and found a book on Tibet, with photos of how the people dressed. Very shabby. The owner of the store said he had often seen people from the area come in his store dressed like that, in rags.

That was before Walmart began to bring money into the area as Waltons was still just a mom and pop dime store on the square.


54 posted on 01/17/2014 7:38:46 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m here in central Wisconsin, just 20 minutes from Wisconsin Dells, the “waterpark capital”. The Dells was always looking for employees and brings in many foreign students to fill that need. People here don’t want to work for $8 and hour. A pregnant high school student or recent graduate/drop out with a couple kids is the norm. And proud Grandma will be gushing about it at the grocery store. And they all live together. One big happy family. Most mothers know how many hours a year to work to get the earned income tax credit and other ways to milk the system. It will be ugly when it crashes. And that may come sooner than you think. At one time, I worked at the local Walmart. My old friends there say as people leave they are not hiring replacements. That was always the guaranteed job up here. What is the world coming to when Walmart isn’t hiring.


55 posted on 01/17/2014 8:12:45 AM PST by mouse1
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

You live near Siloam Springs? I visit family there twice a year. Beautiful country.


56 posted on 01/17/2014 8:26:40 AM PST by sheana
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***You live near Siloam Springs?***

Just north of there in the country.


57 posted on 01/17/2014 9:07:16 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Our city has been the fastest growing in NM. Eight years ago we were winning awards for the Best Place in America to Raise your Children, and Best Place in America to Start a Small Business.

For the past five years we have been stagnant. Very little growth. Large companies in town sending their jobs elsewhere. Small retailers closing. Few new businesses opening. Property values down about 30% from eight years ago. Lots of people moving out for “better” jobs.

Nowhere nearly as bad as in Appalachia, but not good.


58 posted on 01/17/2014 9:28:05 AM PST by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: kearnyirish2; Mad Dawgg

Say what you will of Gov. Perry, but we have new businesses and jobs every day, all over.


59 posted on 01/17/2014 10:52:20 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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To: palmer

Could you show it to me, I did a title search, as I always do.


60 posted on 01/17/2014 10:57:08 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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